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In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, our host Donald Kelly meets with Chris Beall to talk about the MOST important objection you’ll face as a seller and why sellers often can’t overcome it.

Who is Chris Beall?

Chris is the CEO of the software company ConnectAndSell and offers one INSANELY valuable tool to sellers: The ability to talk to as MANY people as you want at the push of a button. Throughout his career, however, he’s encountered one trend.

The Number One Objection Sellers Face:

  • In the COUNTLESS sales reps that Chris has worked with, the most common objection they face, and the hardest to overcome, is a simple phrase. That phrase is “I’m all set.”.

What triggers this objection?

  • Most people think that cold calls are mostly marketing. Marketing gets TOO involved within the process of the cold call, and going into a cold call with a marketing mindset is deadly.
  • One of the most FREQUENTLY used tactics in marketing is establishing a niche. Define your niche or area of expertise and then do something to differentiate yourself from the competition.
  • Although this is a useful avenue for marketing, it’s TERRIBLE during cold calls. The reason is simple: If you try to establish a category or niche during a cold call, you come off as condescending.
  • Think about it: You’re effectively telling whoever you’re calling that THEY’RE incompetent and that YOU are better at whatever your specific niche is. Doing this within the first cold call, to a completely new buyer, is a surefire way to get the “we’re all set” objection. Why should the buyer go with your solution when they think their solution is already effective?

So, how should sellers overcome this objection?

  • You have to RELIVE the fear of whoever you’re calling. Virtually ALL cold callers assume the person they’re calling is angry or annoyed with them. In reality, though, this person is scared. You’re someone they do not know, and we’re naturally afraid of the unknown.
  • To overcome this natural fear, empathize with them. View the world through THEIR eyes. They see YOU as a problem. Acknowledge that, and then offer a solution to that problem. This begins to build TRUST between you and the person you’re calling.

If you want to learn more about Chris’s strategies, you can check out his podcast called Market Dominance Guys, or his company website at ConnectAndSell.com.

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1738.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

After scrolling through LinkedIn for fifteen minutes, you finally found the perfect potential client. Now, it’s time for you to start a conversation with them. But how do you do this without them ignoring you?

You’ll discover exactly how in this episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast.” Host Donald Kelly shares five tips on starting conversations with cold prospects on LinkedIn. Tune in and hear what he has to say!

1. Ask For Help

  • Don’t be ashamed; everyone needs help sometimes. 

  • Donald discusses how you can ask for help from others on LinkedIn.

2. Ask a Question

  • When you DM a cold prospect, consider asking a question. 

  • But remember to be humble!

3. Compliment Them

  • Everyone loves compliments it’s no secret. Take the time to say something nice to your cold prospect. 

  • They may be more willing to accept your sales pitch when you congratulate them.

4. Share Their Stuff

  • People want their content to reach a wide audience, even out of their network. So, help them out and share what they post. 

  • Also, it’s one of the best ways to start a conversation on the platform.

5. Send An Audio Or Video Message

  • Face it, our world is obsessed with technology, and people are tired of outdated methods.

  • Stand out among your competitors and send an audio or video message. 

  • It will help you connect better with cold prospects because they see more than just a pretty picture on LinkedIn.

Donald Kelly always shares wonderful advice to help sales reps step their game up. Did you like these short tips on starting a conversation with cold prospects? Wouldn’t you like more advice on how to utilize LinkedIn effectively?

Subscribe to TSE Podcast to build your pipeline and sell three times more than you’re now! Also, don’t forget to connect with Donald on LinkedIn.

Resources

Donald C Kelly LinkedIn

TSE LinkedIn Prospecting Course

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1737.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s the end of the year, and you’re enjoying the good food, presents, and holiday spirits. But you still need to complete some tasks before December is over.

In this short episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald Kelly shares three things sellers must do by the last week of December. What are those three tasks?

Tune in and find out! They may set you up for bigger wins in 2024.

1. Be Transparent With Past Potential Customers

·         You want to tell your past potential buyers that you’re still trying to close the deal, but not how you think it should be done.

·         Donald shares excellent examples of how to do this correctly.

·         Remember, it’s not about you and trying to close deals. It’s about how you and the product can help solve their issues.

·         Donald discusses how you can take advantage of LinkedIn in the episode. If you need help, consider taking the LinkedIn Sales Navigator course.

2. Reconnect With Customers and Connections

·         You probably have hundreds or thousands of connections on LinkedIn. But how many of them do you actually engage with?

·         Donald discusses why this is important and provides examples of reconnecting with customers on LinkedIn.

·         Money in the bank: customers are more likely to offer referrals!

3. Focus On Lost Deals

·         Do you ever circle back to your lost deals? You may want to give this a try.

·         Donald shares why this technique works for sales representatives around this time of the year.

·         Who knows, they are more willing to work with you now than they were last time. It won’t hurt to try.

Short, sweet, and juicy sales tips! While waiting for the last week of December to be over, take the time to try these three sales techniques. They’ll have you bringing in the New Year with more clients and money!

“Start a conversation, and you’ll be amazed at how many people will reply back.” - Donald Kelly

Resources

Donald C. Kelly on LinkedIn

LinkedIn Sales Navigator Course

TSE LinkedIn Prospecting Course

Sponsorship Offers

1.      This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.      This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.      This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1736.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Here’s one thing you’re not taking the time to learn: the human mind. Understanding why people buy things allows you to have the upper hand in the sales process.

In this episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald Kelly invites Phil Agnew, the UK's number one marketing podcast host, to share insights on psychological nudges that can benefit salespeople. 

With his background in marketing and expertise in behavior science and psychology, Phil brings to light six psychological effects that can significantly impact sales. Tune in and learn how psychology greatly influences people’s buying decisions.

Understanding the Effects

  • The episode features a comprehensive discussion of six effects psychologists and behavioral scientists discovered over the years. 

  • These effects are anchoring, scarcity, reciprocity, social proof, the Prattful effect, and the labor illusion.

Anchoring and Its Impact on Sales

  • Phil explains the anchoring effect, which is the concept that individuals are anchored to the initial information they receive. 

  • He delves into practical examples of how anchoring influences decision-making and shares insights on how salespeople can use anchoring to their advantage.

Leveraging Scarcity in Sales

  • The conversation then moves on to scarcity, a psychological concept where a scarce resource is perceived as more valuable than an abundant one. 

  • Phil discusses innovative ways to apply scarcity and shares compelling studies demonstrating the effectiveness of leveraging scarcity in marketing and sales strategies.

Reciprocity in Salesmanship

  • Phil delves into the concept of reciprocity, focusing on the human tendency to return a favor. 

  • He shares engaging stories, including the fascinating tale of the world's most successful used-car salesman, and provides practical insights on implementing reciprocity in sales strategies.

The Power of Social Proof

  • Social proof is the next psychological effect examined in the episode. 

  • Phil elaborates on individuals' tendency to follow others' actions and illustrates how salespeople can use social proof to influence the decision-making process of potential buyers. 

  • His insights shed light on the persuasive nature of social proof in sales scenarios.

Exploring the Prattful Effect

  • The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Phil discusses the Prattful effect, an intriguing psychological phenomenon that underscores how showcasing a weakness can actually enhance likability and desirability. 

  • He provides valuable examples and practical applications for leveraging the Prattful effect in sales strategies.

The Labor Illusion and Its Value in Sales

  • The episode culminates with exploring the labor illusion, where the perceived effort and work put into a product or service enhance its value. 

  • Phil highlights studies that illustrate the influence of the labor illusion on consumer decision-making and provides actionable guidance for sales professionals.

Practical Applications and Real-World Examples

  • Throughout the episode, Phil intertwines the psychological effects with practical, real-world examples, translating complex psychological concepts into actionable strategies that sales professionals can implement to enhance their sales approach.

  • From leveraging scarcity in product marketing to highlighting weaknesses to build trust, Phil's insights provide a wealth of actionable ideas for sales enhancement.

In this enthralling episode, Phil Agnew provides a deep dive into the fascinating realm of psychological nudges and their impact on sales strategies. Explore these six psychology sales tricks to enhance your approach.

"The initial bit of information that we hear when we're about to enter a sales conversation can actually anchor us and change how we act." - Phil Agnew.

Resources 

Nudge Podcast by Phil Agnew

LinkedIn: Phil Agnew

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1735.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

How do you get people to know you before they meet you?

In this five-minute episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald Kelly will tell you exactly how. Donald emphasizes the importance of creating a point of reference and humanizing oneself in prospects' eyes before initiating sales conversations.

Discover valuable insights on building connections with potential prospects before engaging with them.

Building Relationships on LinkedIn

  • Donald discusses the challenges of reaching prospects through traditional means, such as emails and phone calls, and highlights the effectiveness of creating a point of reference on LinkedIn. 
  • He suggests that LinkedIn serves as a social gathering spot and provides an opportunity to bridge the gap between a sales professional and a prospective client by allowing them to see the human side of the individual.

The "Get to Know Me" Post

  • One of the key strategies that Donald shares is the concept of the "Get to Know Me" post on LinkedIn. 
  • He encourages listeners to utilize the featured section of their LinkedIn profiles to highlight a post that showcases their personal side instead of a sales pitch. 
  • By steering prospects to this post, individuals can offer a glimpse into their personal life and interests, thereby breaking down the initial barrier and shaping a more relatable image in the eyes of potential clients.

Humanizing the Sales Approach

  • Donald stresses the significance of adding personality and humor to the "Get to Know Me" post. 
  • By injecting elements of fun and sharing personal quirks or preferences, individuals can attract prospects on a human level, transcending the typical sales persona. 
  • He draws from a guest's advice to incorporate humor into the post, as laughter is a powerful tool to forge connections with others.

Encouraging Authentic Connections

  • Donald encourages listeners to experiment with the "Get to Know Me" post on LinkedIn and invites them to share their experiences with him. 
  • He emphasizes the universal need for genuine human connections and advocates for transforming LinkedIn from a professional networking platform to a human networking platform.

Donald shares powerful tips in this five-minute episode. Try implementing these strategies to help build your pipeline and close more deals. Join us in the next episode for more insightful discussions and actionable sales strategies.

“They see you as a sales professional. How can we break down that barrier so they can see you as a human being and then, from that, converse and start the conversation and talk to you? They're not just looking at a seller. They're looking at Mary, or they're looking at DJ.” - Donald Kelly.

Resources

Donald Kelly on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1734.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

No matter what you do, you never reach your monthly sales goals. You try every sales technique in the book, but your quota is nowhere near where it should be.

Maybe you’re a sales leader with one or two reps meeting their monthly quota. But, the rest is struggling to make it.

How can you quickly change this around and ensure every seller on your team meets their numbers?

Tune in and listen to this week’s episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast.” In this episode, we delve into the world of sales leadership with Gretchen Gordon, the president and founder of Braveheart Sales Performance, a sales consulting firm. 

Focusing on small and medium-sized businesses, Gretchen leads a team dedicated to maximizing organizational growth and developing individuals in sales roles and sales leadership positions. Grab your notebook and pen and listen to her insightful advice for sales representatives. 

The Importance of Effective Sales Leadership

  • Gretchen provides insights into the crucial role of effective sales leadership in maximizing growth and individual performance within organizations. 
  • She emphasizes the significance of confidence, skill sets, and mindset in creating a happy, accomplished sales team.

Challenges in Sales Leadership

  • Gretchen discusses the common challenge of promoting top sales performers into leadership roles without providing the necessary training and resources, leading to ineffective leadership practices. 
  • This highlights the need for a shift in mindset and skill set when transitioning from an individual contributor to a leadership position.

Adapting to Changing Work Environments

  • Addressing the impact of the pandemic and hybrid work environments, Gretchen emphasizes the importance of cultivating intimate connections with team members to understand their motivations and challenges.
  • She acknowledges the need for proactive engagement and coaching in remote or hybrid work settings.

Coaching for Success

  • Gretchen emphasizes the significance of coaching as a fundamental aspect of effective sales leadership. 
  • She distinguishes between informal and formal coaching, highlighting the need for consistent engagement and personalized development plans tailored to individual goals.

Implementing Formal Coaching

  • In detailing the formal coaching structure, Gretchen emphasizes the importance of scheduled coaching sessions and real-time participation in sales activities. 
  • She stresses the value of involving team members in identifying areas for improvement and providing targeted support and guidance.

The Role of Accountability in Sales Leadership

  • Gretchen presents a nuanced approach to accountability, moving beyond mere quantitative metrics to qualitative assessment of behaviors and practices. 
  • She emphasizes the role of a sales manager as an accountability partner focused on enabling continuous improvement.

Motivation and Personalized Accountability

  • Gretchen highlights the need to understand the unique motivational drivers of team members to personalize accountability measurements. 
  • She outlines a more engaging and personalized approach to driving performance by linking performance goals to individual aspirations.

Elevating Sales Leaders

  • In discussing the evolution from individual contributor to sales leader, Gretchen highlights the necessity for distinct skill sets and mindsets in effective management. 
  • She encourages aspiring sales leaders to focus on continuous self-improvement and development, elevating themselves to elevate their teams.

Gretchen Gordon's insights provide a comprehensive understanding of successful sales leadership principles. She offers a roadmap for organizations and aspiring sales leaders to achieve growth and success by addressing the challenges, strategies, and key elements of effective leadership.

“We have to think about the key traits that would predict success in management if you're a top salesperson, and frequently it's not being the top salesperson because they're a solo practitioner. I would say be open to the fact that you don't have to know everything, and it's okay not to know what you don't know.” - Gretchen Gordon. 

Resources

Braveheart Sales Performance

Gretchen Gordon’s book, “The Happy Sales Manager.”

Gretchen Gordon’s email: ggordon@braveheartsales.com

Braveheart Sales Performance on LinkedIn 

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1733.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Are you ready to learn top sales tricks from a seasoned professional?

Tune into this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast. You’ll learn sales psychology techniques to win clients over in five minutes or less. 

Host Donald Kelly sits down with Brian, an experienced entrepreneur and sales strategist. They discuss the ins and outs of masterful sales techniques and negotiation psychology. 

This compelling episode offers listeners an in-depth overview of Brian's robust background in business and sales and the wisdom he's encapsulated in his book and coaching programs. 

Brian’s Background

  • Brian is a seasoned entrepreneur with a wealth of experience in business, having started and sold multiple companies across different industries. 

  • His entrepreneurial journey also includes running a coaching program designed to aid other entrepreneurs in navigating the complex world of business. 

  • Brian has not only applied his extensive sales knowledge practically but has also authored a book focused on sales and negotiation psychology. The book is a culmination of his years in the field, providing readers with insights into understanding clients' psychologies and the inherent mistrust they often have toward salespeople. 

  • His deep understanding of the sales process is backed by his history of hands-on experience and his dedication to teaching others through various platforms, including his media presence and the courses he offers.

Educating the Customer: A Delicate Balance

  • Brian draws an intriguing analogy between purchasing a car and buying a CRM system — customers don't always need to know every single detail, akin to not requiring an entire owner's manual. 

  • This idea aligns with his belief that the essence of a successful sale is not about overwhelming customers with information but rather about asking appropriate questions, navigating objections, and guiding the customer toward self-realizing their needs.

Negotiation Tactics and Sales Psychology

  • The conversation transitions to negotiation strategies, emphasizing making low initial offers and understanding the client's perspective. 

  • Brian explains that the art of closing effectively involves leading a potential customer to conclude the deal themselves, a technique he elucidates through a compelling role-play scenario with Donald. 

  • In this demonstration, Brian focuses on preemptively diffusing objections, presenting informed options, and validating the customer's authority to make decisions.

Closing Strategies and Building Rapport

  • Donald and Brian discuss closing techniques, stressing the necessity of approaching the sales process thoughtfully rather than hastily.

  • With a 30% closing ratio illustration, Brian illustrates the need for clarity in objection handling and more efficient movement through rejections. 

  • Rapport and trust are highlighted as indispensable elements of a successful close, enhanced through humor and active listening.

For listeners looking to refine their sales approach and negotiation skills, this episode of 'The Sales Evangelist Podcast' with guest Brian provides a treasure trove of strategies grounded in psychological insight. Offering both theoretical and practical wisdom, Brian’s dialogue with Donald is an essential listen for anyone eager to up their sales game and connect with clients on a deeper level.

“All right, here's the secret sauce. Maybe nobody's ever told you this one, but here's a secret. Okay? If we know that people like to buy things from people they like and trust, sure. The fastest way to get somebody to like you is to make them laugh. See, you just laughed.” - Brian Will

Resources

Brian Will Media

The Psychology of Sales and Negotiations 

Masters of Sales and Negotiations 

Class Code: SALES

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1732.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Many sales representatives believe that doing outbound with LinkedIn takes a lot of work.

But not with these five simple techniques.

In this unique episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald Kelly shares five ways to do daily outbound prospecting on LinkedIn. Tune in and discover these short and sweet tips.

 1. Reach Out to People You’re Already Connected With

  • Donald discusses this as one of the easiest ways to do outbound on LinkedIn.

 2. Utilize the “Permission To Ask a Question” Technique

  • He shares the importance of reaching out to clients within your networking connection.

 3. Pay Attention to Who Engages With Your Posts

  • These people can be potential clients!

 4. Celebrations

  • If you see someone celebrating something, start a conversation with them. 

 5. See Who Is Following Your Company

  • They’re already following your brand, so reach out to them.

There you have it! Short, sweet, and juicy LinkedIn outbound techniques. To build your pipeline and close more deals, subscribe to the TSE podcast to learn more about effective modern sales methods.

“If you’re not posting on LinkedIn, you need to post. People will engage with it, and your job is to engage with them.” - Donald Kelly.

Resources

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1731.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

You made five hundred cold calls in one day. In four hundred calls, no one answered, and in another fifty, the potential clients said a hard no.

In twenty-five calls, you received maybes; in the last twenty-five calls, the potential buyers said yes.

With you making so many calls in one day, you figured more people would say yes. This is why so many sales representatives believe cold calling is dead.

Bust, honestly, it’s not. It’s just the old methods of cold calling are dead. In this episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald Kelly speaks with guest Gabe Lullo about the new cold calling techniques.

Gabe shares his expertise and insights on cold calling, sales strategies, and staying relevant in the ever-evolving sales landscape. Discover the importance of relevant messaging, personalization, human touch, and effective communication in this insightful episode.

Is Cold Calling Dead?

  • Addressing the prevalent debate, Gabe firmly asserts that cold calling is far from dead.
  • Supported by data and real-life experience, he emphasizes the effectiveness of cold calling in qualification, call-to-action, and appointment setting, debunking the myths surrounding its relevance in the current sales environment.

Modern Sales Approach

  • Gabe stresses the importance of an omnichannel approach, integrating call, email, and social platforms to establish meaningful and relevant connections with prospects. 
  • He emphasizes the need for high-volume activity paired with a relevant message, highlighting the power of personalization and the human touch in driving engagement.

Strategies for Relevant Messaging

  • Gabe delves into the nuances of crafting relevant messaging, emphasizing the importance of relevance over mere personalization. 
  • He shares insights on identifying and leveraging data providers to tailor messages according to the prospects’ specific verticals and ICPs, and the significance of using technology for optimizing communication channels.

The Role of Human Touch and Empathy

  • The conversation explores how human touch, empathy, and personalized, relevant communication set sales professionals apart in the current market. 
  • Gabe emphasizes the need to sound like a human, not an AI bot, illustrating how to engage prospects effectively and foster genuine connections.

Optimizing Sequencing

  • Gabe challenges the traditional sequence approach, advocating for a burst of activities across multiple channels rather than drawn-out, segmented sequences. 
  • He highlights the significance of engagement and conversation to drive effective communication, emphasizing the need to adapt and modernize sales strategies.

Mastering the Cold Call

  • Gabe shares valuable insights into mastering the art of cold calling, stressing the need for extensive training and knowledge of objection handling. 
  • Understanding and anticipating objections empowers sales professionals to navigate conversations effectively and win at cold calling.

In this power-packed episode, Gabe provides invaluable insights into the world of cold calling and contemporary sales strategies. Listeners gain practical strategies for staying relevant, fostering engagement, and mastering the art of cold calling in the ever-evolving sales landscape.

Remember, cold calling isn't dead, and with the right approach,  it remains a critical tool in the modern sales professional's arsenal. Discover how to use cold calling the right way in this TSE Podcast episode. 

“Well, first off, cold calling is absolutely not dead. And I don't come to these calls with opinions because I think opinions are not really valuable. I come with data and stats, right? Our reps are making tens of thousands of phone calls per day. And we have a lot of close friends who have very large organizations in which we've built their in-house teams or at least assisted. And so we know what they're doing, too. Thousands of data points and calls have shown us that the phone is still the ultimate weapon for qualification, getting a call to action, and getting an appointment on the calendar.” - Gabe Lullo. 

Resources

Gabe Lullo on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1730.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

How can you interact with potential buyers (especially enterprise clients) that encourage a dialogue? After all, landing the sale isn’t the only part of the equation; you first have to get their attention! In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald is joined by Dr. Stephen Timme and Melody Astley to discuss their recent book Insight-Led Selling, which details how to learn how buyers think.

But first, why did they write a book?

  • Ultimately, Stephen and Melody wanted to create a resource their clients and community could utilize.
  • It’s harder than ever to sell to enterprise sellers (yes, people say that every year. But it’s true!) And COVID-aside, the subscription-based economy is growing.
  • There are more stakeholders than ever before in traditional buying processes. At the same time, implementation costs for platforms are lower, making it easier to switch between service providers.

They interviewed many executives to see how they felt about sales. 

  • From AT&T, Coca-Cola, Proctor and Gamble, and even Honey-Baked Hams, Stephen and Melody interviewed executives to learn firsthand how they felt about salespeople. (If you were curious, Honey-Baked Hams didn’t even give them coupons. We’re just as disappointed as you are.)
  • They asked one simple question: what could sellers do better? Below were the three overwhelming responses:
  • First, tell me something I don’t know.
  • Second, how does what you’re selling align with my goals and strategies.
  • Third, make my life easy (and don’t give me a 30-page proposal.)

Personalization is more than inserting the name of each person in an email blast. 

  • It’s developing a point of view that is interesting to the person you’re talking to.
  • Hold on, let’s say that again for those who missed it: spend a moment to develop a point of view interesting to the person you’re talking to.
  • As a sales leader, we expect output from our BDRs. But we can’t do this and expect results from a spray-and-pray method. The game has changed.

How can you implement these sales techniques?

  • For publicly-traded companies, you have access to specific financial figures; use that to align your selling proposition with their capabilities. 
  • Explain the “how” you can help them before you can get into the “how much.” 
  • For sales leaders, equip your salespeople with the specialized knowledge they might need. 
  • You can self-learn if you feel unsupported by your organization, or (and an even better strategy), ask your organization for support.

Their final takeaway? Understanding the language of how a customer speaks (and relating that to financial objectives) is a skill that will last the rest of your career.  Insight-Led Selling is available for purchase on Amazon or Barnes & Noble. To contact Melody and Stephen, reach out at info@finlistics.com or connect on their business’s LinkedIn page. (Or connect directly with Stephen and Melody.)

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1729.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Oh no! It’s happening again.

The biggest search engines are making changes. But, this time, it’s to protect people’s email accounts. Sellers sending out over 500 emails per day may want to stop because there will be repercussions for doing so. 

In this episode of "The Sales Evangelist Podcast," host Donald Kelly addresses the recent strict changes announced by Yahoo and Google regarding email outreach. 

How will these changes affect your sales approach? What are the limits to how many emails can you send now? 

Tune in to this week’s episode and learn how to adapt to these recent changes.

Understanding Yahoo and Google's Changes

  • Donald breaks down the changes announced by Yahoo and Google, highlighting that bulk senders who dispatch more than 5000 emails per day must adapt to align with the heightened requirements. 
  • These changes aim to shield end users from spam and potential security risks associated with excessive unsolicited emails.

Insights Derived from Mailgun

  • Referencing insights from Mailgun, Donald delves into the implications for sales professionals and how these changes impact their outreach strategies. 
  • He emphasizes that aligning with the standards enforced by Google and Yahoo is essential for safeguarding email deliverability and maintaining a positive sender reputation.

Essential Practices for Email Outreach

  • Donald outlines three crucial elements that sales professionals must prioritize to navigate the evolving email outreach landscape. 
  • These include authenticating emails, enabling easy unsubscribe options, and sending targeted emails that cater to recipients' interests and preferences.

Implications for Sales Professionals

  • Addressing the potential impact on sales professionals, Donald discusses the nuances of these changes for individual contributors and organizations. 
  • He stresses the importance of adherence to email authentication practices, particularly for organizations with multiple sales representatives engaged in outbound email activities.

Technical Requirements for Email Authentication

  • Donald elucidates the technical aspects of maintaining compliance with Google and Yahoo's email-sending policies. 
  • He emphasizes the need to implement SPF, DKIM, and DMARC measures to uphold authentication standards for domains exceeding the 5000-email threshold.

Adapting to Enhance Relevance and Impact

  • Drawing parallels between the evolving email outreach landscape and the need for enhanced creativity and relevance, Donald underscores the importance of crafting substantive and impactful communications. 
  • He stresses the need for sales professionals to establish reference points, leverage referrals, align with recipient interests, and ensure a respectful and relevant approach.

Embracing a Thought Leadership Mindset

  • Encouraging sales professionals to adopt a thought leadership mindset, Donald emphasizes the importance of focusing on individual buyers' specific needs and challenges. 
  • He advocates for aligning communications with potential impacts on the buyer's role or responsibilities, thus enhancing the relevance and impact of outreach efforts.

Donald urges listeners to elevate their sales game and take advantage of the resources and sponsors highlighted in the episode. He offers valuable guidance for sales professionals seeking to adapt to the changes in email outreach and elevate their approaches to securing quality sales opportunities in a shifting landscape.

Resources

TSE LinkedIn Prospecting Course

MailGun Update on Gmail and Yahoo

"Slow the game down. Don't rush, don't stress. When there's a breakaway by far, go ahead and take that breakaway. Take that shot. But right now, let's slow the game down. Let's play the field and increase the chances of us scoring" - Donald Kelly.

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1728.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode of the TSE podcast, host Donald Kelly speaks with development lead Brain Liebel from Ambition. They dive deep into the rhythms of successful sales strategies and performance to redefine the sales approach. 

Donald and Brian unpack the essence of human interaction in sales, the strategic 'snowball effect' of building a robust sales pipeline, and how to turn data from sales conversations into tactical gold. Let's sift through the invaluable insights from this rich discussion.

Human Interaction: The Core of Sales

  • In today's world, where automation and technology are prevalent, the importance of human connection can sometimes be underestimated. However, Brian underscores the irreplaceable value of human-to-human interaction, especially during the initial conversations in the sales pipeline. 
  • Using analogies from lead utilization, he emphasizes the need for salespeople to focus on engagements ready to blossom instead of wasting potential opportunities.

Creating a Documented Sales Process

  • Drawing from his expertise, Brian advises having a carefully documented process within sales teams. This cornerstone allows for iteration and implementation of tactical solutions, moving beyond the often insufficient directive of simply 'putting in more effort.' 
  • The systematic approach is about leveraging every lead and conversation to build a 'snowball' that grows over time - a strategy that becomes increasingly more potent as insights and data are collected.

The Role of Ambition and Networking

  • Brian shares his experience with Ambition, a sales coaching and performance management platform. This tool exemplifies the integration of data-driven strategy into everyday sales tasks. 
  • Additionally, Brian extends an offer to connect on LinkedIn, allowing listeners to delve into sales discussions and gain further insights from a well-established industry leader.

Organization in Prospecting

  • Brian stresses the importance of organization in prospecting. He offers actionable advice on maintaining accurate data, imperative for evaluating performance and strategizing more effectively. 
  • He outlines four vital administrative tasks: transcribing notes at an account level, implementing a tagging system, devising customizable queries, and updating the conversation timeline.

Deep Dive into Tagging Systems

  • A specific focus was given to the tagging system, with Brian explaining that a balance is required in the number of tags used. This balance ensures that the system aids the organization without becoming overly complicated. 
  • Such a system assists in categorizing follow-ups, creating a more efficient path to revisit prospects.

The 'Snowball Effect' of Sales Conversations

  • Brian breaks down the 'snowball effect,' offering concrete statistics gathered from the Bridge group detailing the monthly average quality conversations salespeople have. 
  • He also illuminates the conversion rate of these interactions and the long-term value of conversations that don't immediately result in meetings. This is a testament to the importance of viewing every conversation as a stepping stone to eventual success.

Collecting Sales 'Gold Flakes'

  • To harness the full potential of conversations, Brian advocates keeping logs of critical data points post-discussion. 
  • He shares his tagging method for optimizing follow-up actions, such as tagging direct dials and follow-up dates. 
  • Additionally, the speakers recommend creating touchpoints on LinkedIn and sending follow-up emails to help prospects remember the interaction, likening the process to collecting small gold flakes that accumulate into a valuable reserve over time.

Gratitude for Insights

  • As the discussion wrapped up, both speakers exchanged gratitude, highlighting the importance of sharing knowledge and appreciation in the sales community. 
  • These moments of connection nurture professional relationships and foster a supportive atmosphere where learning and development can thrive.

Donald and Brian agree that the meticulous process of cold prospecting, akin to sifting for gold, makes top-of-the-funnel activities enjoyable and fruitful. Sales professionals can elevate their pipelines by making every piece and interaction count and relish the journey toward a rewarding outcome. Join us for the next episode of “The Sales Evangelist” as we continue to uncover the art and science behind effective sales strategies.

“How do you take all of this data and turn it into a tactical way to execute and return to these prospects you spoke to? You learned something, but it wasn't the right time to meet. What do you do with that? I think with a lot of salespeople is we're always looking to be a wordsmith on the phone or have the craftiest subject line or level up our training and seek all of this external flash. Right. All these flashy sales things. Organization and efficiency are two of the very unspoken things in the world right now. The best prospectors are when it comes to documenting all of these things that we do.” - Brian Liebel. 

Resources

Ambition 

Brian Liebel on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1727.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode of the Sales Evangelist podcast, host Donald C. Kelly explores the common pitfalls of salespeople and emphasizes the importance of understanding and providing what buyers truly want. By shifting the focus from selling to educating, sales professionals can build trust, provide valuable insights, and ultimately close more deals.

Common Mistakes Made by Salespeople

  • Donald highlights the tendencies of salespeople to rely on automated emails and fail to listen to buyers' needs truly. 
  • He also underscores the issue of pushing products or services onto buyers without understanding their actual requirements. 
  • These common missteps contribute to a lack of trust between sales professionals and their potential clients.

The Essence of Selling

  • By redefining the essence of selling, Donald emphasizes the importance of persuading someone of the merit of a solution rather than simply pushing products or services. 
  • He delves into the concept of buyers seeking solutions to their problems, as opposed to being pitched generic offerings.

The Desire for Education

  • A key insight from Donald is the revelation that buyers crave education and seek out sales professionals who can serve as industry authorities. 
  • Salespeople can capture potential clients' trust and interest by providing relevant insights and foresight.

Shifting from Selling to Educating

  • Donald encourages a strategic shift from selling to educating, urging sales professionals to focus on mastering their industry and understanding the recurring problems buyers face.
  • By adopting the role of an industry guide, sales professionals can effectively educate and provide solutions tailored to the specific needs of potential clients.

Practical Strategies for Success

  • The episode offers actionable strategies for sales professionals, such as analyzing the commonalities and differences among their top clients to identify key drivers behind successful deals. 
  • It is through these insights and foresight that sales professionals can engage buyers in meaningful conversations and educate them effectively.

Harnessing the Power of LinkedIn

  • Donald shares insights into leveraging LinkedIn as a powerful tool for educating potential clients and building a robust sales pipeline. 
  • He emphasizes the impact of educational content in attracting and engaging potential clients, thereby facilitating business growth.

In this insightful episode, Donald Kelly delivers valuable guidance for sales professionals seeking to enhance their approach and effectively meet the needs of potential clients. Be sure to explore the LinkedIn program and subscribe to the podcast to help enhance your sales skills more.

[Tweet "Sellers are selling, while buyers or potential buyers are looking for education. They're looking to be taught. They're craving to be taught. They're not looking to talk to another salesperson.” - Donald Kelly."]

Resources

TSE LinkedIn Prospecting

Donald C. Kelly on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  • This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  • This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  • This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1726.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

What inspires you to be the best sales representative in your company? Is it to take a vacation to Hawaii? 

Is it to earn enough to buy your significant other a horse? Or maybe you just want to have money and live comfortably. 

Despite naming off different common wants most people want in their lives, many salespeople don’t know what they really want. So, how do you dig deeper into your wants and discover your real desires?

In this episode of the TSE podcast, host Donald Kelly speaks with Travis Ashby, a seasoned sales professional, on the deeper desires of salespeople beyond monetary incentives. Travis shares his journey of finding his purpose and how it led him to create a platform that helps sales leaders understand and support their team's goals and ambitions.

The Changing Landscape of Sales Incentives

  • Travis highlights how the world of sales has evolved, particularly in light of recent events like COVID and the "great resignation." 
  • He explains that today, salespeople are looking for more than just a paycheck, and leaders must adapt their approach to motivate and retain their sales teams.

Going Beyond Transactional Motivation

  • Travis emphasizes that monetary incentives and transactional rewards such as gift cards, cash bonuses, and swag have historically driven sales. 
  • However, he believes that true motivation and happiness in sales come from aligning personal goals with company objectives.

Helping Sales Reps Discover their True Desires

  • Travis reveals that when asked about their goals, many sales reps struggle to articulate their desires beyond surface-level wants like money or a vacation. 
  • He emphasizes the importance of leaders taking the time to dig deep and understand what truly brings happiness and fulfillment to each team member's life.

The Power of Public Goals and Accountability

  • By visualizing and sharing their goals with others, salespeople experience a sense of accountability and support. 
  • Travis introduces his concept of an "inspiration engine," a tool that helps individuals analyze their personal happiness equation and take actionable steps toward their goals.
  • When others are aware of these goals, they can offer assistance, encouragement, and hold individuals accountable for their progress.

The Value of "Sacred Money"

  • Travis shares a personal story about his mother's passing and the lessons he learned from it. 
  • He explains the concept of "sacred money" – money intentionally set aside for things that bring happiness and fulfillment. 
  • By adopting this mindset, sales reps can align their financial resources with their deepest desires, whether it's surprising a loved one, pursuing a passion, or overcoming obstacles.

Fostering a Culture of Care

  • Travis emphasizes the importance of managers caring about their sales team members' personal and professional aspirations. 
  • He encourages leaders to ask meaningful questions about their team's happiness equation, helping them uncover what truly matters and taking steps to support their goals.

Travis concludes the episode by highlighting the need for trust between companies and employees. He introduces "WorkLyfe," a platform that acts as a third-party intermediary, fostering trust and privacy while facilitating the alignment of personal and company goals. By encouraging a communal approach to supporting individual goals, WorkLyfe aims to revolutionize sales leadership and create happier, more fulfilled sales teams.

“When I ask someone that question, or when a manager asks reps that question, I'd say 70% of the time, the reps have no idea. I don't know. And so they need help figuring that out.” - Travis Ashby.

Resources

Worklyfe.io

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1725.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

When was the last time you did something nice for someone? Did you notice how their eyes shine bright like a diamond? 

How about their smile? Did it become as big as the Grand Canyon?

When people become this happy from others making nice gestures, it creates a warm feeling they’ll never forget. This is why sales representatives should take advantage of this, and Donald Kelly is here to tell you why.

In this episode of The Sales Evangelist podcast, Donald explores the importance of showing appreciation to prospects and clients as a sales professional. Listen to this special Thanksgiving episode for seven powerful ideas to help you build stronger and lasting client relationships. 

Utilize LinkedIn Sales Navigator

  • Donald recommends creating a list on LinkedIn that includes all of your customers and prospects. This lets you be notified whenever they change jobs, get promoted, or leave their company. 
  • Acknowledging these developments and sending a personalized message demonstrates that you care about your client's success.

Put Them on Blast

  • Highlighting your clients on social media platforms such as LinkedIn is a powerful way to show appreciation.
  • Posting about their achievements, charity work, or unique offerings not only acknowledges and recognizes them, but also boosts their visibility and reputation. 
  • This gesture can go a long way in building stronger relationships and fostering goodwill.

Consider Appropriate Gifts

  • While gifts may not be suitable for all industries or clients, sending a thoughtful gift can leave a lasting impression for those where it is feasible. 
  • Be mindful of any restrictions or guidelines and choose a gift that aligns with the client's interests or preferences. 
  • A small gesture, such as a fruit basket or an edible arrangement, can go a long way in showing appreciation.

Offer Referrals

  • Actively seek opportunities to refer your clients to others in your network. 
  • Your efforts to connect them with potential prospects show you value their business and believe in their products. 
  • Referrals can lead to long-term partnerships and significant business growth, making this strategy a win-win for both parties.

Send Personalized Emails

  • A simple, heartfelt email can go a long way in showing appreciation. 
  • Craft a personalized message expressing your gratitude for their support and how much you value their partnership. 
  • Keep the email genuine and focus solely on expressing gratitude without any sales pitch or ulterior motive. 
  • This gesture will leave a positive impression and show that you genuinely care about your client's success.

Consider Upgrades

  • Consider offering upgrades to higher tiers or additional features for loyal and exceptional clients. This shows that you recognize their value and are willing to invest in their success. 
  • Offering upgrades not only enhances their experience with your product or service but also encourages them to advocate for your brand, potentially leading to additional revenue.

Donate to Charities

  • Research the charitable organizations that your clients support or are passionate about.
  • Donate to those organizations on your clients ' behalf during specific times of the year or trigger events and inform them about it. 
  • This not only demonstrates your commitment to social responsibility but also showcases your attentiveness to their interests beyond business transactions.
  • If you would like to show appreciation to Donald, consider donating to his favorite charity, A Bed for Me.

In this episode, Donald Kelly emphasizes the importance of appreciating prospects and clients as a sales professional. By incorporating these strategies throughout the year, sales professionals can strengthen relationships, build trust, and pave the way for long-term success. Remember, a little gesture of appreciation can go a long way in positively impacting both your business and the lives of those you serve.

"Show your appreciation. Your words matter. These are simple gestures from you for sending that email. Just because. You are absolutely amazing. I just want to send you an email and tell you thank you. No tricks, no gimmicks here. It's a pleasure working with you." - Donald Kelly.

Resources

A Bed for Me Foundation 

Donald C. Kelly on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1724.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

What’s the number one skill you need to make it as a sales professional?

Do you know?

It’s self-confidence. If you don’t have the confidence to sell your services or products, how do you expect potential customers to buy from you?

Of course, developing self-confidence is easier said than done, and many people struggle with it. However, if you listen to this special episode of the TSE podcast, you’ll gain knowledgeable insight on becoming mentally tough for the sales industry.

Host Donald Kelly speaks with guest Matt Phillips, a leadership coach, on how sales professionals can build mental toughness. Discover how you can prepare mentally for sales in this episode.

5 Elements of Mental Toughness

  • Matt developed five elements to help sales professionals build mental toughness. These elements include:
    • Self-belief: If you don’t believe in yourself, you won’t succeed in sales. Matt discusses the importance of self-belief and how it helps a sales rep.
    • Focus: What are you focusing on right now, and is it helping your career? Sometimes distractions get in the way, and you have to shift your focus on what’s really important.
    • Emotional control: You can't break down when things go wrong. When it happens, you must control your emotions to advance your career. 
    • Energy: Your energy is essential to gaining clients as a sales professional. If you believe nothing good is coming your way, it won’t. Also, remember to be mindful of your energy at home, as it carries into the workplace.
    • Consistent action: Try to develop a goal of out-reaching five times a day. Your consistency will help you build your pipeline and close more deals.

Prioritization and Focus in Sales and Leadership

  • Matt prioritizes focusing on 3-4 key areas to drive the biggest results rather than trying to be everything to everyone.
  • His wife keeps them focused on their priorities by asking if new ideas align with them, preventing them from getting off track. If you need help staying focused, consider asking someone for assistance.
  • Matt emphasizes the importance of focus and simplicity in leadership and sales, suggesting that it simplifies decision-making and reduces FOMO (fear of missing out).
  • Matt shares his personal experience with emotional reactions and teaches a methodology to prepare for and, ideally, react to difficult situations.

Emotional Control and Consistency in Sales

  • Matt emphasizes the importance of emotional control and leveraging past experiences to stay focused and confident in sales.
  • Donald agrees, highlighting the need to remember and leverage past successes for future success.
  • Matt emphasizes the importance of consistency in caring for oneself, both at work and home, to maintain energy and positivity.
  • He encourages listeners to focus on quality over quantity in their daily activities, such as making five quality outreaches a day instead of 100 calls that last only half a day.

Sales Leadership, Mindset, and Consistency

  • Matt emphasizes the importance of simplicity in achieving sales goals, suggesting that taking consistent small actions is more effective than creating a complex plan.
  • He advises against spending too much time on grandiose plans and instead recommends taking small, actionable steps toward sales goals.
  • Using Tony Robbins's quote that we overestimate what we can accomplish in a year but underestimate what we can achieve in 10, Matt highlights the importance of small, consistent steps in sales leadership.

It’s amazing how having the right mindset can improve your life professionally and personally. For those who struggle with self-confidence and mental toughness, this episode of the TSE podcast is a must-listen. Also, for additional help, check out Matt’s free training and podcast for more insights on leadership, mindset, and mental toughness.

“If I'm confident in a situation, I have more emotional control.” - Matt Phillips.

Resources

Website: Matt Phillips Coaching

Podcast: The Matt Phillips Podcast

LinkedIn: Matt Phillips

Facebook: Matt Phillips Leadership Coaching 

Instagram: Matt Phillips Leadership Coaching

Youtube: Matt Phillips Leadership Coaching

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1723.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

With the rise of AI tools, most sales representatives utilize them to their advantage to help save time. However, the problem with using these tools is the risk of sounding too robotic and not coming across as genuine. 

In this profession, sales reps must be authentic to help them build relationships with potential customers. How can you use AI tools and still show up authentically every time with your clients?

In this episode of the TSE podcast, host Donald Kelly welcomes Carl Sajous, the sales director at HR tech company Fringe. Carl shares his insights on the importance of authenticity in sales and how building genuine relationships can lead to business success. He discusses the challenges of maintaining authenticity in the age of AI and offers practical tips for building relationships and closing deals. 

The Power of Authenticity in Sales

  • Donald highlights the value of authenticity in sales and praises Carl for being genuinely passionate about his work. 

  • Carl emphasizes the need to be true in every conversation and transaction. 

  • He believes authenticity allows for deeper connections and meaningful relationships with prospects and clients.

Balancing AI and Authenticity

  • The rise of AI technology has made sales processes more efficient, but it can also compromise authenticity. 

  • Carl shares his perspective on using AI tools like Chat GPT to improve sales interactions. 

  • He explains how he leverages AI to understand common industry talking points and stands out by offering unique insights and solutions.

The Importance of Active Listening

  • Donald and Carl discuss the art of active listening as a crucial aspect of building relationships. 

  • Carl emphasizes the need to listen attentively without preconceived notions. 

  • Sales professionals can offer tailored solutions by genuinely understanding a prospect's struggles and pain points. 

  • Carl encourages his team to use their ears more than their mouths, allowing them to absorb information and provide meaningful feedback.

Being Genuine in a Professional Setting

  • Carl shares his experience of feeling pressured to act a certain way when starting B2B sales. 

  • He reveals how he overcame the challenge of balancing professionalism and authenticity. 

  • He developed stronger connections with his prospects and clients by being himself and maintaining professionalism.

Focusing on Relationship Building

  • While closing deals is essential, Carl's primary focus is building relationships. 

  • He shares a story about a deal that didn't go in his company's favor but resulted in three referral opportunities from the client. 

  • Carl explains the importance of creating lasting relationships beyond a single transaction.

  • By supporting clients even when there is no immediate benefit for his company, Carl fosters trust and opens doors for future opportunities.

Equipping Champions for Success

  • Carl discusses the role of champions in sales. 

  • Sales professionals can more effectively close deals by preparing and empowering champions to advocate for a solution. 

  • Carl encourages his team to equip champions with all the necessary information, ensuring they are confident in sharing the value proposition and benefits of the product or service.

Providing Creative and Tailored Support

  • Tailoring support and resources to fit the communication preferences of each individual is vital. 

  • Carl emphasizes the need to adapt and provide various tools such as video demos, one-pagers, templates, and alternative communication channels like texting or video calls. This flexibility allows sales professionals to meet prospects' needs and build stronger connections.

The Mirror Technique

  • Carl summarizes his insights with a powerful image of imagining a mirror before engaging with prospects and clients. 

  • By recognizing yourself and staying true to your values and intentions, you can show up authentically and build trust with those you interact with. This authenticity paves the way for successful sales relationships.

Carl's emphasis on authenticity and building genuine relationships in sales is invaluable. By listening, understanding, and genuinely showing up as yourself, you can create meaningful connections that lead to successful transactions and long-term partnerships. Authenticity is the key to standing out in a sea of sales professionals and building a thriving sales career.

“Always imagine there's a mirror in front of you. When you do that, you show up authentically. You tell yourself the truth, and there's no one around to skew that. Showing up authentically means just being yourself, being there for the people in your life and in that transaction with you. That'll breed success in a major way.” - Carl Sajous.

Resources

Fringe.us 

carl@fringe.us

Carl Sajous on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1722.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode of the TSE podcast, Lawrence, co-founder of Practice Lab, joins the show to discuss the importance of qualification in sales. He shares insights on determining the right people to bring into your sales pipeline and provides valuable tips on effective qualification techniques. 

Lawrence emphasizes the need for curiosity, asking impactful questions, and understanding potential customer's pain points. He explains the concept of "bucketing" prospects based on their awareness and urgency of the problem they must solve.

The Club Analogy and the Importance of Qualification 

  • Lawrence uses the bouncer at a club analogy to emphasize the need to be selective about who enters your sales pipeline.

  • He explains the difference between qualification and discovery, emphasizing that qualification is crucial at the beginning of the sales process.

  • Lawrence emphasizes the need to avoid setting oneself up for failure by being too focused on meeting quota multiples rather than ensuring the quality of prospects.

Inverse Relationship Between Pipeline and Win Rate

  • Lawrence presents an interesting observation that the win rate of a sales team often decreases as the size of the pipeline increases.

  • He shares that teams with smaller, more qualified pipelines can achieve higher win rates.

  • Lawrence encourages sellers to be ruthless in their qualification process to increase win rates and focus on prospects with more urgent and painful problems.

Leading with Curiosity and Natural Conversations 

  • Lawrence discusses the importance of leading with curiosity for authentic and effective sales conversations.

  • He advises sellers to ask questions that get potential customers to focus on their goals and desired outcomes rather than solely discussing product features.

  • Lawrence stresses the need for active listening and conversations that don't feel like scripted checklists but genuine discussions.

Disqualification as a Sales Strategy

  • Lawrence shares an approach from his experience at Apple, where he encouraged potential customers to disqualify themselves from the product if it didn't meet their specific needs.

  • He explains that this approach helps prospects evaluate the value and urgency of their own problems, building stronger commitment if they choose to continue in the sales cycle.

  • Lawrence highlights the importance of helping prospects disqualify themselves to ensure they present a strong case to their organization.

Practice Lab's Approach to Skill Improvement

  • Lawrence explains that Practice Lab focuses on practicing specific sales skills and improving broader conversational and human interaction skills.

  • He uses the analogy of Kobe Bryant taking tap dancing lessons to enhance his footwork, highlighting the value of practicing skills outside the direct sales realm.

  • Lawrence emphasizes the importance of simulating realistic scenarios during practice sessions and measuring progress against a standard of excellence.

Qualification plays a crucial role in the sales process, determining the quality and success of a sales pipeline. Lawrence emphasizes the need for curiosity, effective questioning techniques, and peer feedback to improve qualification skills. 

He also advocates for realistic practice sessions focusing on broader conversational and human interaction skills to improve overall sales performance. By adopting these strategies, sales professionals can increase win rates and create stronger relationships with qualified prospects.

"One of the things that I've kind of noticed, and I don't see a lot of people talking about, is that there's almost an inverse of what your sales pipeline is to win rate." -Lawrence Wayne O’Connor.

Resources

ThePracticeLab

Lawrence@thepracticelab.com 

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1721.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode of the Sales Evangelist podcast, host Donald C. Kelly dives deep into the number one reason why prospecting on LinkedIn may not be working for you and, most importantly, how to fix it. Kelly breaks down the common challenges sales professionals face and offers practical steps to enhance prospecting efforts on LinkedIn. 

Understanding the Problem

  • Kelly opens the episode by addressing the frustration of salespeople not receiving responses or appointments through LinkedIn. 

  • He attributes this challenge to the focal point of prospecting efforts - the people being targeted.

Focusing on the Right Accounts

  • The podcast outlines the importance of targeting accounts more inclined to purchase, emphasizing the concept of foresight in understanding buyer behavior. 

  • Kelly suggests analyzing past successful deals to identify commonalities among the organizations, individuals, or industry trends, effectively creating a target account list based on these insights.

Leveraging Relationship Explorer

  • Kelly highlights the value of using LinkedIn's Relationship Explorer feature to identify shared connections with targeted individuals within an organization. 

  • This approach enables sales professionals to establish more meaningful and genuine connections, increasing the likelihood of engagement.

Embracing Foresight

  • The episode stresses the significance of discerning potential buying signals, such as job changes within the target organization. 

  • Kelly underscores that people who have recently changed roles are more likely to be open to making purchasing decisions, making them prime prospects for outreach.

Harnessing Alerts for Actionable Insights

  • Kelly advises the strategic use of LinkedIn's alerts feature, which provides timely updates on the target accounts, including job changes, content sharing, and hiring activities. 

  • This empowers sales professionals with actionable insights to engage with the right prospects on time.

Personalizing Connection Requests

  • Kelly emphasizes the importance of crafting personalized connection requests based on the information gathered from LinkedIn. 

  • By referencing shared experiences, posts, or geographical similarities, sales professionals can significantly increase the chances of accepting their requests.

Unlocking the Power of Warm Introductions

  • The podcast emphasizes the potency of leveraging warm introductions, as individuals are more receptive to engaging with connections recommended or referred by mutual contacts. 

  • Kelly advocates using this approach to establish credibility and rapport with target prospects.

Donald reinforces the significance of targeting the proper accounts on LinkedIn and leveraging foresight to drive effective prospecting outcomes. The episode delivers actionable insights and practical steps for sales professionals aiming to enhance their prospecting efforts on LinkedIn. 

“Those warm introductions are just like money. It is the bread and butter for LinkedIn because people have a higher chance of doing things with people recommended or referred to them.” - Donald Kelly.

Resources

Donald C. Kelly on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1720.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

"Are you tired of your sales outreach falling flat and not getting the results you want? Well, you're not alone. 

Many sales reps miss out on a crucial aspect of their customers' buying behavior. In this episode of the Sales Evangelist podcast, host Donald C. Kelly emphasizes the importance of utilizing LinkedIn as a tool for generating sales opportunities and engaging with prospects. 

He highlights recent buyer behavior trends and provides insights on overcoming common challenges faced by sales professionals on LinkedIn. Listen to this week’s episode of the TSE podcast to hear a powerful strategy to maximize its potential.

Recognizing the Potential of LinkedIn 

  • Many sales representatives acknowledge being present on LinkedIn for years without seeing significant business results.
  • Donald acknowledges the frustration and attributes the lack of effectiveness to a failure in properly utilizing the platform.
  • He encourages listeners to acknowledge that their prospects are active on LinkedIn and proposes that engagement is key to success.

Being an Active Participant 

  • Donald points out that a common mistake on LinkedIn is observing and not actively participating.
  • He urges sales professionals to break free from being wallflowers and actively engage with their network.
  • Donald reveals the core strategy: posting at least one piece of content on LinkedIn every week.

Overcoming Excuses and Finding Topics 

  • Donald dismisses the argument of lacking time as an excuse for not posting.
  • He underscores that investing 15 minutes in creating a post is manageable for those actively pursuing new leads.
  • To counter the issue of not knowing what to post about, Donald suggests reflecting on objections received during prospect conversations.
  • He advises addressing objections in a post, giving practical examples to illustrate how to do it effectively.

Tailoring Content to Address Objections 

  • Donald emphasizes the need to provide compelling reasons in response to objections.
  • He advises sales professionals to dig deeper into objections to uncover the underlying concerns.
  • Using a hypothetical scenario of selling a CRM to a prospect with an existing internal solution, Donald illustrates how to approach objections effectively.
  • By addressing the deeper reasons behind objections, sales professionals can debunk misconceptions and provide compelling reasons for prospects to consider their solution.

Donald highlights the significant potential of LinkedIn as a platform for sales professionals to engage with prospects and generate new business opportunities. The key to overcoming common challenges and creating meaningful connections is to participate actively and consistently post relevant content.

Addressing objections in a compelling manner allows sales professionals to build trust and convert prospects into customers. Implementing these strategies on LinkedIn can yield remarkable results in expanding the sales pipeline and increasing close rates.

“I talked about this several places, but the data is also proving it because most of the buyers are tired of searching and clicking. What they're doing, however, is that they want to find stuff where they are. And the study has shown that 44% of buyers have said they are discovering new software and products via social media.” - Donald Kelly.

Resources

Donald C. Kelly on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1719.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 1:01am EDT

Did you know that you can close a deal before the actual sales process?

Say what? That doesn’t make any sense.

Actually, it does. But for it to make sense, you must listen to this week’s episode of the TES podcast. In this episode, host Donald welcomes Carlos, a Dynamics and Business Application Specialist at Microsoft, to discuss the importance of internal buy-in for sales reps. 

Carlos shares his insights and experiences in navigating large organizations and building strong relationships with internal partners. He highlights the significance of trust and effective communication in securing warm leads and closing deals successfully.

Carlos' Role at Microsoft

  • Carlos briefly explains his role as a dynamics and business application specialist at Microsoft, specifically focusing on the banking vertical. 

  • In this position, Carlos collaborates with large banks to help solve operational and sales force issues using Microsoft's CRM tools and local platform. 

  • He expresses his excitement and passion for his work at Microsoft and emphasizes the value he brings to the table through his expertise.

Understanding the Power of Internal Buy-In 

  • Carlos emphasizes the significance of internal buy-in for sales reps. He highlights how sales professionals often struggle to realize the power of gaining support within the buyer's organization before closing a deal. 

  • Carlos admits that he faced similar challenges when he started as a young sales rep, and he acknowledges that many others are still trying to figure out this process. 

The Significance of Internal Partnerships 

  • Drawing from his 15 years of experience in various sales roles, Carlos emphasizes the importance of building alliances with internal partners. 

  • As a specialist, Carlos is not the primary point of contact with customers. However, he realizes the significant impact of warm leads generated through strong relationships with internal partners in increasing the probability of closing deals successfully. 

  • Carlos shares an example from his early days as a field sales rep at Bank of America, where he developed a fruitful partnership with a financial center manager. This partnership allowed Carlos to enhance his lead generation efforts and create a successful sales pipeline. 

  • Trust, timeliness, and follow-through were key factors in building and sustaining such partnerships.

Success through Building Trust 

  • Carlos explains how trust was pivotal in his relationship-building efforts with internal partners. By approaching his partnerships with humility and a genuine willingness to meet expectations, Carlos established a solid foundation for trust. 

  • Through consistent communication, timely responses to leads, and transparent follow-ups, Carlos ensured that the internal partners were informed and involved in the entire sales process. 

  • Carlos demonstrated his commitment to delivering value by prioritizing customer satisfaction, providing efficient service, and demonstrating integrity. His success in nurturing these partnerships led to multiple achievements, such as recognition in the Platinum Clubs at Bank of America.

Carlos emphasizes the significance of internal buy-in and the impact it can have on sales success. He encourages sales reps to prioritize building relationships with internal partners, being reliable, and displaying integrity throughout the sales process. Sales professionals can navigate large organizations and increase their chances of success by cultivating trust and delivering value.

"I learned quickly in my first sales role that I need to become friends with my customers. I'm sure everybody will agree a warm lead where there's a relationship with the customer is a lot better than a cold lead." - Carlos Oquendo Jr.

Resources

Carlos Oquendo Jr. on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

You send hundreds of messages on LinkedIn every week, but you are still waiting for someone to get back to you. Maybe there’s one or two who have the courtesy of saying hello back to you, but it never goes any further than that.

As a sales representative, you know how important LinkedIn is to help you gain clients. However, if you’re not creating engaging conversations with prospects, it will be hard to build a pipeline.

In this episode of the TES podcast, host Donald Kelly shares five creative ways to do outbound with LinkedIn. Tune in and hear what he has to say.

Stop Sending Generic LinkedIn Requests

  • You may find it easier to send basic messages stating who you are and what you can do for prospects. However, these types of LinkedIn messages often get ignored. 

  • Instead, consider sending a personalized message to your prospective clients. This involves reviewing their profiles and seeing how to connect with them.

Don’t Just Care About Building Your Pipeline

  • Yes, your goals are to gain clients and make money. But this shouldn’t be all you care about. People can sense this and will know if this is the only thing you’re worried about.

  • Donald shares why sales reps should focus on building relationships with prospective clients. 

  • Always remember that people crave connections. If your prospects have a positive relationship with you, they’re more likely to do business with you.

How to Send a Personalized Message on LinkedIn?

  • Even if the person you’re speaking with turns out to be someone who you don’t work with, they may be some help later on. This is another reason why sales reps need to send personalized messages on LinkedIn.

  • How can you do this?

    • Ask questions: Once again, dig through their profiles and be curious about what they or their company share on LinkedIn.

    • Engage on the platform: Don’t be a fly on the wall, and take the time to comment on the posts your connects share. It shows you’re genuinely interested in them and not just trying to take their money.

    • Give compliments: If you see they’re doing good in something, compliment them. Donald discusses how complimenting prospects will help them engage more with you in the messages.

The goal of the TSE podcast is to help sales reps 3x their sales pipeline and close twice as many deals. Every week, we share two episodes to help sellers reach their goals. So, if you need help building your pipeline and closing deals, subscribe and listen to this episode.

“You need to make sure you strive to have some kind of genuine connection with human beings; people are craving that these days.” - Donald Kelly.

Resources

Donald C. Kelly on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1717.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Are you struggling to make meaningful connections with prospects in today's cluttered and noisy marketplace? If so, you're not alone.

In this episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald Kelly speaks with guest Matt Reuter, a senior director of Sales Development for RealPage. Matt shares valuable insights and strategies for increasing connection rates with prospects in today's competitive market. 

He highlights the challenges sellers face, particularly in terms of breaking through the clutter and noise, and offers practical tips to overcome these obstacles. Matt emphasizes the importance of smart and strategic activities, focusing on outcomes rather than sheer volume, and understanding the nuances of prospect behavior to maximize connection rates.

Craving Results

  • Drawing inspiration from Tim Grover's book, Relentless, Matt emphasizes the significance of craving results and focusing on the right activities. 
  • By understanding the desired outcomes and having a relentless drive to achieve them, sellers can channel their energy and efforts into activities that are more likely to yield positive results.

Understanding Your Prospect

  • Matt emphasizes the need for sellers to take a step back and truly understand their prospects. This includes considering factors such as their industry, location, and daily routines. 
  • Drawing from his experience working with diverse teams across different cities, Matt recognizes that work-life and business practices vary across regions. 
  • Sellers can align their outreach efforts with prospects' preferences and schedules by understanding these nuances.

Optimizing Activity Timing

  • To boost connection rates, Matt advises sellers to identify specific time slots when prospects are more likely to engage. 
  • He suggests looking for gaps in the prospect's schedule, rather than bombarding them during peak meeting hours. 
  • Choosing the right time to reach out, send an email, or connect on LinkedIn increases the chances of catching the prospect's attention and avoiding crowded inboxes and voicemails.

Working Smarter, Not Harder

  • Matt encourages sellers to work smarter by focusing on the quality rather than the quantity of their activities. This means prioritizing meaningful interactions that are more likely to yield positive outcomes. 
  • He cautions against wasting time on aimless calls and emails that do not result in connections. 
  • Instead, sellers should invest their energy in activities that have a higher probability of success, based on their understanding of the prospect's preferences and behavior patterns.

Shifting the Metric

  • Matt challenges the conventional emphasis on the number of calls or emails made and urges sellers to focus on the outcomes they desire. 
  • Rather than simply counting the volume of activities, sellers should prioritize the desired results, be it setting up a meeting or securing a connection. This shift in mindset helps sellers prioritize their efforts and places the emphasis on achieving meaningful outcomes that drive success.

Autonomy and Empowerment

  • Matt explains how he empowers his team to structure their day based on their understanding of the prospects they are targeting. 
  • Rather than micromanaging their schedules, he encourages his team members to evaluate the buyer's behavior and align their activities accordingly. This autonomy allows sellers to make informed decisions on when and how to engage with prospects, thereby increasing their chances of establishing connections.

In this episode, Matt highlights the challenges faced by sellers in establishing connections with prospects. Through his insights and experiences, he discusses the importance of understanding the prospect's behavior, optimizing activity timing, and working smarter rather than harder. 

When sellers focus on results rather than sheer volume, they can increase their chances of success. Implementing these strategies can help sellers cut through the noise, break through the clutter, and ultimately build stronger connections with their prospects.

"Helping one seller fine-tune and improve their approach by even a quarter of a percent could result in millions of dollars for them and their company in the long run." -Matt Reuter

Resources

Matt Reuter on LinkedIn

Relentless by Tim Grover

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1716.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Do you struggle with multithreading as a seller? Would you like a secret technique to help you develop relationships with decision-makers?

In this episode of "The Sales Evangelist Podcast," host Donald Kelly speaks with Spencer Muhonen on the concept of multithreading in sales and shares strategies and tactics for effectively implementing it. They provide insights based on their experience in the industry, offering valuable tips for BDRs and sellers looking to improve their pipeline and build relationships with multiple stakeholders.

Who Is Spencer Muhonen?

  • Spencer is a senior tenured SDR for Awardco, a SaaS company based in Provo, Utah, that focuses on employee recognition and incentives. 

  • He shares his role and highlights the importance of targeting traditional personas in prospecting, along with key internal champions in other departments to strengthen the case for sales.

Collaborating With the Sales Department

  • Donald and Spencer emphasize the significance of multithreading in modern sales, as sellers must engage with multiple stakeholders throughout the buying journey. 

  • They caution against ineffective approaches, such as cheesy sales tactics or simply blasting outreach to a list of focus accounts without a thoughtful strategy.

  • Spencer defines multithreading as expanding outreach beyond traditional personas and titles, reaching out to key decision-makers in various departments to build credibility and enhance the pipeline.

  • He explains that sales departments can be excellent sources of internal champions, as people in sales are often looking to grow their own pipelines. 

  • Spencer highlights his willingness to have meetings with other sales professionals who approach him on LinkedIn, even knowing that he is not a decision-maker. This reciprocal approach can lead to strengthened relationships and mutual support.

Engaging With the Finance Department

  • Donald and Spencer further discuss other effective multithreading strategies, such as contacting the finance department. 

  • Spencer emphasizes the importance of vendor managers and their oversight of profitability and contracts. 

  • By connecting with finance teams during the RFIs or RFPs process, sellers can build intrigue and gain intros to C-suite members. This approach is often overlooked but can yield significant benefits.

Personalizing Your Messages

  • Both speakers address the issue of using the same message for multithreading prospects. Donald refers to it as "lazy selling" and asks Spencer for his approach.

  • Spencer suggests personalizing the messaging, taking into account the specific context and pain points of each stakeholder. 

  • Sellers can build trust and make a stronger impact by tailoring outreach to individual needs.

Building Internal Brand Champions

  • Throughout the conversation, Donald and Spencer provide actionable advice and share their experiences to guide sellers in implementing effective multithreading strategies.

  • They underline the importance of building relationships beyond traditional personas, leveraging networks in sales departments and finance teams, and personalizing outreach to engage stakeholders more effectively.

This episode of "The TSE Podcast" offers valuable insights to BDRs and sellers on the art of multithreading in sales. By expanding their reach and building relationships with various stakeholders, sellers can enhance their pipeline and increase the chances of closing deals. Through personalization, collaboration, and a strategic approach, sellers can navigate the complex sales landscape successfully.

"Expanding your outreach away from your traditional personas, titles that you would target when prospecting, and normal decision makers. There is a larger scheme of decision makers, but also key internal champions you can build from other departments that can strengthen your case and strengthen your pipeline long term to build credibility when it comes time for an account executive to have, hopefully, a closed deal." -Spencer Muhoner

Resources

Spencer Muhonen on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1715.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 1:42am EDT

In the dynamic world of sales, the game has evolved. Gone are the days of relying on a single decision-maker to push a deal forward. Today, successful sales professionals understand the importance of engaging with multiple organizational stakeholders to secure the coveted win.

In this episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald speaks with sales expert Nick Reed Smith. They discuss the increasingly complex world of sales and how to manage multiple stakeholders in the buying process effectively. 

Nick shares his experience and strategies for multithreading deals, emphasizing the importance of building relationships with various decision-makers and influencers within an organization to increase the chances of closing a deal successfully. Join Donald and Nick as they dive into the art of multithreading and uncover helpful tips for sales professionals seeking to improve their techniques.

The Changing Dynamics of Sales Processes

  • Nick highlights the evolving nature of the sales landscape, where deals are becoming more complex and multiple stakeholders are involved. 
  • He emphasizes the need for sales reps to adapt and find new ways to interact with buyers effectively.

Becoming a Trusted Consultant

  • One of the key shifts in buyer expectations is the desire for sales professionals to act as consultants rather than mere order-takers. 
  • Buyers want a partner who understands their needs, manages multiple stakeholders, and provides valuable insights throughout the sales process.

Understanding Multithreading

  • Nick introduces the concept of multithreading, which involves building relationships with multiple individuals within the buying organization. 
  • Rather than relying solely on one point of contact, sales reps should engage with decision-makers, economic champions, technical champions, and coaches to comprehensively understand the deal's dynamics.

Mapping the Organizational Landscape

  • To effectively multithread, sales professionals need to identify the key personas and individuals they should engage with within the buying organization. 
  • Nick advises sales reps to map out the various stakeholders they must interact with, ensuring they cover all necessary roles, such as CRO, CFO, Rev Ops, head of alliances, and VP of sales.

Taking Control and Providing Updates

  • Nick emphasizes the need for sales reps to maintain control of the multithreading process. 
  • Instead of asking permission to interact with other stakeholders, he suggests clearly communicating to the initial point of contact that multiple team members have been reaching out to their counterparts. 
  • This approach keeps everyone informed and engaged while setting the foundation for a collaborative relationship.

Balancing Pushiness and Transparency

  • Some may perceive constant engagement with multiple stakeholders as pushy, but Nick argues that it is necessary in today's sales environment. 
  • By framing the multithreading approach as a shared effort involving various team members, sales reps assert their expertise and demonstrate their commitment to understanding the organization as a whole.

Managing multiple stakeholders in complex sales deals is a growing challenge for sales professionals. Through the art of multithreading, sales reps can build stronger relationships and easily navigate the buying process's complexities. The key takeaway from this discussion is that multithreading is not only a sales strategy but also a mindset shift toward becoming a trusted advisor and consultant to buyers.

"Oftentimes, what I found the reason for me that it does slip is because, okay, I was spending too much time with the person I thought was the decision-maker. And maybe I didn't have enough knowledge of what was going on in other departments, or maybe there was someone else higher up that I needed more buy-in from them." -Nick Reed Smith

Resources

Nick Reed Smith on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

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Direct download: TSE_1714.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Have you ever faced the challenge of trying to increase your outbound contact ratio? In today's highly competitive business landscape, reaching out to new clients can be challenging. 

But what if we told you there's a way to double your contact with prospects and see significant improvements in your sales results? In this episode of “The Sales Evangelist Podcast,” host Donald Kelly speaks with Richard from Durham Lane, an integrated sales and marketing outsourcing business based in the UK. 

They discuss the challenges of net new client acquisition and how Durham Lane successfully increased their outbound contact ratio by adopting a qualitative approach to prospecting. Richard shares valuable insights on intelligent prospecting, omnichannel strategies, and the importance of meaningful conversations with potential clients.

The Importance of Intelligent Prospecting

  • Richard highlights the need to move away from solely focusing on effort and instead embrace intelligent prospecting and thoughtful business development activities. 
  • Durham Lane believes in the power of engaging prospects in meaningful conversations to drive Net New client acquisition. 
  • They have developed techniques based on selling at a high-level methodology, which they successfully implemented to improve their outbound contact ratios.

Omnichannel Approach for Effective Engagement

  • Durham Lane emphasizes the importance of an omnichannel approach to maximize their outreach efforts. 
  • While technology plays a crucial role in facilitating communication, it's vital to understand the customer journey and use various channels to engage with potential clients. 
  • Richard explains that providing sales teams with tools like telephone, email, and LinkedIn is not enough. 
  • To ensure successful engagement, businesses need to support the entire customer journey and tailor messages to the buyer's specific state – whether they are in the problem education, solution research, or solution selection phase.

The Power of Relevance and Call to Action

  • Richard emphasizes the significance of relevance in messaging strategies. 
  • Using the same message for prospects at different stages of the buyer's journey often results in a lack of engagement. Therefore, Durham Lane focuses on creating tailored messages that address each targeted persona's specific problems, solutions, and aspirations. 
  • Alongside relevance, a clear and compelling call to action is essential to encourage prospects to take the desired next step. 
  • By emphasizing business fit and value, businesses can demonstrate their understanding of the buyer's needs and establish a meaningful connection.

Swift and Strategic Follow-up

  • One of the critical success factors in increasing outbound contact ratios is the speed and effectiveness of follow-up. 
  • Durham Lane prioritizes timely follow-up to keep prospects engaged and convert their interest into opportunities. They ensure that their sales team is equipped to have meaningful conversations, showcasing their understanding and expertise. 
  • Richard emphasizes the importance of being part of a consistent and valuable conversation thread that progresses from digital interactions to human communication.

Richard’s experience and approach to increasing outbound contact ratios provide valuable lessons for businesses looking to improve their prospecting and business development efforts. Implementing these strategies can lead to more successful engagement, ultimately contributing to business growth and success.

“Work with your colleagues in your marketing team and bring the two functions together because you should really be driving towards the same goal, which is peeking the attention of the right people in the right types of company so that your sales team can convert them into revenue and your customer success team can look after them for life. If you can achieve that, you have a winning strategy.” - Richard Lane.

Resources

Durhamlane.com

richardlane@durhamlane.com 

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

Credits

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Direct download: TSE_1713.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 8:48am EDT

It's hard to keep up with the current methods of the sales industry? In this episode of "The Sales Evangelist Podcast," you will discover the sales industry's current SDR/BDR challenges and innovative strategies to combat them.

Our host, Donald Kelly, speaks with Howard Dover, a sales expert, researcher, and professor, on how staying adaptable and adjusting helps you become a better sales rep. From the psychological toll of constant rejection to the destruction of dreams and careers, it is evident that a change is needed. 

Join us as we uncover the importance of innovation and adaptability in achieving success.

The Changing Landscape of Sales

  • Howard discusses research on the sales industry, sharing insights from tracking data on sales cities and the growth of Sales Development Representatives (SDRs).
  • LinkedIn's 2018 report shows that the SDR function has experienced exponential growth, increasing by 580% over the past three years.
  • Howard highlights the need for innovative approaches in sales outreach as the buyer's behavior evolves with each new tactic.

The Power of Unique Prospecting

  • The importance of pattern interrupting and capturing attention in sales outreach efforts is emphasized.
  • Howard shares a personal example to illustrate the significance of having a captivating offer and using behavioral adjustment to act differently in certain situations.
  • Buyers have become overwhelmed by traditional approaches, and Howard suggests that honest and unique methods can help sales professionals stand out.

The Future of Sales and Strategies

  • Reflecting on the future of the sales industry, Howard predicts a shift towards a full lifecycle approach, where salespeople will generate their own leads and build their own pipelines.
  • The need to revisit older sales methodologies and find effective ways to adapt to the present market is discussed.
  • He acknowledges the challenges of breaking away from conventional training and thinking but emphasizes the potential rewards of embracing a more agile and business-minded mindset.

The Dust Bowl Analogy

  • Drawing inspiration from the Dust Bowl disaster, Howard highlights the parallel between the flawed plowing technique and the challenges faced in the sales industry.
  • The importance of adjusting and evolving approaches in response to changing customer behaviors is emphasized, drawing from interviews with successful students during the pandemic.
  • Scott Leasey's belief in avoiding overprocessing and adopting creative, business-minded approaches is mentioned as a valuable perspective.

Embracing Change and Human Behavior

  • Howard encourages sales professionals to embrace change and understand human behavior, suggesting that success lies in creativity and adapting to the current market.
  • The concept of standing out by grasping human behavior and exploring creativity is discussed.
  • The risks of sticking to old methods are highlighted, with the speaker emphasizing the need to become adaptable and open to new approaches.

The sales industry can be unforgiving, but there are strategies and approaches that can lead to success. By embracing change, staying agile, and thinking outside the box, sales reps in can navigate the ever-changing landscape and achieve their goals. 

"Being honest and unique in our approach can capture the buyer's attention and set us apart from the years of attempts to hack the system." - Howard Dover

Resources

Howard Dover LinkedIn

The Sales Innovation Paradox by Howard Dover

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1712.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

If you don't understand why people buy, you may want to kiss your career as a sales rep goodbye. Also, if you're having difficulty connecting with your prospects, you may not be able to reach your monthly goals either.

Luckily, your host, Donald Kelly, spoke with the perfect guest to help you understand your prospects better. In this episode, Donald interviews Eric, a business strategist and coach, about understanding the reasons behind customer buying decisions and how to improve sales conversion rates. 

Eric introduces the BANK framework, an innovative tool that helps salespeople connect with customers more deeply by understanding their personality types and values. This episode explores the importance of understanding customer buying behavior and provides practical strategies for sales success.

Understanding Customer Buying Behavior

  • Eric highlights the need to go beyond traditional sales techniques and understand customers' underlying motivations.
  • Salespeople often deliver the same pitch; some customers say yes, while others say no. Understanding why people buy is crucial to improving sales conversion rates.
  • Eric emphasizes the significance of recognizing that individuals have different personality types, values, and decision-making processes.

Introducing the BANK Framework

  • Eric introduces the BANK framework, which stands for Blueprint, Action, Nurture, and Knowledge.
  • The framework helps salespeople identify and adapt to each customer's personality type, enabling effective communication and building customer trust.
  • The BANK framework goes beyond gender-specific differences and provides insights into the underlying values that drive customer decisions.

Overcoming the Language Barrier

  • Eric compares the struggle of ineffective communication in sales to speaking different languages.
  • Salespeople often present their products or services in ways that resonate with them but may not connect with the customer.
  • By understanding and adapting to the customer's preferred language, salespeople can bridge the communication gap and tailor their presentations to meet specific needs.

The Four Elements of the BANK Framework

  • Blueprint (B): Represents individuals who value stability, accuracy, and organization. They prefer logical and detailed information that helps them make informed decisions.
  • Action (A): Represents individuals who value excitement, speed, and results. They seek quick solutions and appreciate presentations that offer immediate benefits.
  • Nurture (N): Represents individuals who value relationships, collaboration, and trust. They respond to personal connections and appreciate salespeople who take the time to understand their needs.
  • Knowledge (K): Represents individuals who value expertise, data, and evidence. They appreciate presentations that provide in-depth knowledge and demonstrate credibility.

Implementing the BANK Framework

  • Eric discusses how the BANK framework can be applied in sales scenarios.
  • Salespeople are encouraged to assess the customer's dominant BANK code based on their preferences, communication style, and decision-making processes.
  • Salespeople can tailor their presentations to meet each customer's needs and values by leveraging insights from the framework.

Understanding customer buying behavior is crucial for sales success. The BANK framework emphasizes individual personality types and values, and provides salespeople with a powerful tool to connect with customers authentically. 

You can increase the conversion rate and build stronger client relationships by adapting your presentations and communication styles to the customer's preferred language. Using the BANK framework will improve your sales performance and enhance customer satisfaction with ease.

"Because for many of us, we must understand why people spend money with us. Like, why is someone going to buy from us? And I'm hoping today that you can help us to grasp that better and grow in that understanding." - Eric Goodman

Resources

To get your complimentary personality report ($99 value) that will provide valuable insights and communication tips that you can apply right away please take 90 seconds and visit https://crackmycode.com/communicate

Eric Goodman LinkedIn

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 11:15am EDT

In this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly discusses the importance of utilizing LinkedIn effectively as a sales professional. Those working as business development representatives or trying to build a sales pipeline should tune in to this week’s episode.

Donald shares three key focus areas for optimizing your LinkedIn profile to grab attention, generate more appointments, and ultimately drive sales.

Utilize Your Banner

     Donald emphasizes the often overlooked real estate of the banner on your LinkedIn profile. This space provides an opportunity to showcase your value proposition and target audience.

     Potential prospects can quickly understand how you can help them if you clearly state who you serve and the industries you specialize in.

     Additionally, if your company has noteworthy brand recognition, include it in the banner to further establish credibility.

     Donald suggests using Canva to create a professional and eye-catching banner that aligns with your company's branding. You can begin selling to prospects even before you engage in a conversation by maximizing the potential of your banner.

Take Advantage of the Name Pronunciation Feature

     LinkedIn offers a feature that allows users to record a 10-second audio clip pronouncing their names.

     While this feature is crucial for individuals with complex names, Donald recommends utilizing it regardless of the simplicity of your name.

     The audio introduction serves as an additional engagement tool and helps prospects connect with you on a deeper level.

Optimize Your Headline

     The headline section is often filled with generic information such as job titles and company names automatically generated by LinkedIn.

     Donald suggests utilizing this space strategically.

     Consider using keywords your target audience is likely searching for, such as specific industry terms or pain points.

     Craft a headline that attracts potential prospects to learn more about you and your expertise.

     It's essential to align your headline with your specific goals and expertise, ensuring it accurately represents your value proposition.

Be Proactive and Engage

     Donald advises being proactive and engaging with your LinkedIn network regularly.

     Interact with posts, share valuable content, and participate in industry discussions.

     Building a strong presence on LinkedIn will strengthen your personal brand, enhance credibility, and attract potential leads.

Maximizing your LinkedIn profile as a sales professional can significantly impact your ability to grab attention, generate appointments, and close deals. These four tips will help you make a lasting impression on potential prospects and increase your chances of success.

"Your profile needs to sell before you even have a conversation with someone." -Donald Kelly.

Resources

Donald C. Kelly LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

1.    This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.    This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.    This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.

Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com.

4.    This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1710.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 2:59am EDT

Are you holding yourself accountable?

If not, then it’s keeping you from success within the sales industry. In this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly speaks with Jessica Schultz about the importance of holding yourself accountable as a sales representative. Discover what accountability means and how it can improve your sales performance.

The Power of Leading by Example

  • Jessica highlights the significance of leaders displaying the behaviors they expect from their team members. 
  • Leading by example sets the tone for the entire organization, as it helps build trust and respect among team members. 
  • Clear expectations should be set, and any issues that arise should be addressed through reporting and conversations with the team members involved. 
  • She also stresses that if team members consistently fail to meet expectations despite efforts to support and guide them, leaders should be willing to cut ties and send a clear message to others.

Importance of Accountability and Feedback

  • One-on-one meetings allow one to discuss concerns, ideas, and goals. 
  • However, Jessica acknowledges that one-on-one meetings can often be neglected due to other priorities. 
  • To ensure accountability, metrics should be defined, and transparent reporting should be implemented. 
  • The CEO's voice is vital in addressing underperforming team members, as a clear directive from the top can greatly impact the team's performance.

Educating Leaders on Effective Sales Management

  • Jessica discusses the need for educating founders and sales leaders on what good sales management looks like. 
  • Defining expectations with metrics and implementing transparent reporting are key to holding sales leaders accountable. 
  • She encourages sales managers to stay on top of expectations to ensure reps hit their goals.

The Role of Sales Leaders in Deal Management

  • Jessica emphasizes the importance of being prepared for calls, promptly following up with reps and customers, and staying engaged and available to support the sales team.
  • The use of technology tools like Gong can help identify challenges and keywords in conversations but should not be relied upon solely. 
  • Managers must still actively listen to the entire conversation and analyze it further. 

Breaking Down Sales Metrics for Success

  • Many companies struggle to determine which metrics to manage their sales representatives to.
  • Jessica highlights the importance of breaking down revenue goals into actionable tasks for reps. 
  • Educating clients on critical sales metrics like average contract value (ACV) and conversion rates is also crucial. Founders may struggle to provide effective coaching, even if they listen to sales calls. 
  • She shares their approach to determining the number of weekly meetings with qualified customers to close deals and setting goals accordingly.

Setting clear expectations for sales leaders and team members is crucial for a thriving sales organization. Jessica shares her insights on accountability for sales leaders and founders in optimizing their sales processes. 

"Clear expectations should be set, and any issues should be resolved through reporting and conversations." - Jessica Schultz

Resources

Jessica Schultz LinkedIn

Amplify

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.

Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com.

4.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1709.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Everyone needs a good book to help them build essential skills for their career. If you’re in the sales industry, you must grab a copy of “Nine Secrets to Win Deals and Influence Stakeholders” to help you learn how to negotiate better.

But how is this book going to help you become a better negotiator?

In this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly interviews the author and negotiation training expert, Mark Raffan. He shares his insights on why negotiation is often perceived as complex and how to navigate it effectively. Also, he discusses the key principles from his book, which aim to simplify negotiation and help readers achieve better outcomes in their deals.

Mark Raffan Background

  • Mark is a negotiation trainer at Negotiations Ninja, where he helps sales leaders develop and deliver content worldwide.
  • His job is to help people make more money, close more deals, and become better negotiators.
  • Recently, he wrote the book, “Nine Secrets to Win Deals and Influence Stakeholders.”

Dissecting the Complexities of Negotiation

  • Mark begins by addressing the misconception that negotiation is a mysterious and magical process. 
  • He attributes this perception to media portrayals in movies like "Wolf of Wall Street," which depict negotiations as effortless and producing instant results. 
  • However, real negotiation is far from glamorous and relies on strategic planning rather than magic or tricks.

Unlocking Success Drivers

  • The book emphasizes the importance of understanding what one wants to achieve in a negotiation. 
  • Mark advises readers to define their contractual terms, target upsells and cross-sells, and identify strategic areas to drive value. 
  • This strategic planning is crucial in avoiding reactive behavior during negotiations, allowing negotiators to maintain control and increase their chances of achieving favorable outcomes.

The Pitfall of Customer-Centricity

  • While being customer-focused is essential, Mark cautions against neglecting the objectives and interests of their own organization. 
  • Many salespeople make significant concessions to meet the counterparty's demands, often at the expense of their own goals. 
  • The book advises sales leaders and negotiators to balance understanding the counterparty's needs and prioritizing their aspirations.

Leadership's Role in Developing Negotiation Skills

  • The book addresses sales leaders, highlighting the importance of educating and empowering sellers in effective negotiation practices. 
  • By encouraging a shift from solely focusing on revenue acquisition to considering deal quality, leaders can inspire their teams to think strategically. 
  • The goal is to foster a mindset that cultivates better long-term results and profitability.

Understanding Deal Quality

  • In today's market, the focus on growth has often overshadowed the importance of deal quality. 
  • Mark challenges this approach, emphasizing the need to evaluate the value and risks associated with each deal. 
  • He provides insights on determining deal quality and outlines strategies to build value while minimizing risks consistently.

Listeners are invited to dive deeper into the subject matter by reading Mark's book, "Nine Secrets to Win Deals and Influence Stakeholders." This enlightening resource is tailored to salespeople and sales leaders seeking to empower their teams and prioritize deal quality. So, if you're ready to unlock the secrets to uncomplicated negotiation and achieve better results in your deals, pick up a copy of the book today.

"Real negotiation is significantly more boring. Real negotiation is about strategy. It's about planning." -Mark Raffan

Resources

Nine Secrets to Win Deals and Influence Stakeholders

Negotiations Ninja

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.

Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com.

4.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1708.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode, Donald speaks with Kevin, the Chief Technology Officer of the Americas at Ciena. They discuss the complexities and challenges of B2B enterprise selling. 

Kevin shares insights into the evolving landscape of enterprise deals, emphasizing the importance of understanding the "why" behind a product or service offering. The conversation highlights the need for effective communication and providing memorable examples to decision-making committees, ultimately leading to successful outcomes.

The Increasing Complexity of B2B Enterprise Selling

  • As technology advances, B2B enterprise selling has become more complex and confusing.
  • The integration of tools like AI adds layers of complexity to the selling process.
  • It is crucial to adhere to the basics and understand the fundamentals of enterprise selling.

The Role of Kevin as the Chief Technology Officer of the Americas

  • Kevin leads a technical team of sales engineers and sales specialists at Ciena.
  • The team's primary objective is to assist business customers in making the right purchasing decisions.

Challenges in Enterprise-level and Complex Deals

  • In the past, individual decision-makers played a key role in the purchasing process.
  • However, in today's enterprise deals, decision-making power rests with a complex council of decision-makers.
  • Sales professionals must equip their customers with the necessary skills and tools to present the value proposition to the entire decision-making council effectively.

Shifting Focus from the "What" to the "Why"

  • Previously, the sales pitch predominantly focused on describing the technical aspects of the product (the "what").
  • With the involvement of decision-making committees, it has become crucial to emphasize the "why" behind the product/service offering.
  • Sales teams need to explain the importance of the proposed solution, and its impact on the customer's business, and provide real-life examples to support their claims.
  • This shift towards the "why" ensures a comprehensive understanding of the value proposition and makes it more memorable.

Enhancing Memorability and Communication

  • It is insufficient to rely solely on PowerPoint presentations or technical demonstrations to convey the value proposition.
  • The sales team should strive to provide the customer with simple, memorable, and repeatable examples.
  • These examples enable the customer to share their enthusiasm and effectively communicate the value proposition to their peers within the decision-making committee.

B2B enterprise selling has become increasingly complex, necessitating a shift in sales strategies. Understanding the "why" behind a product or service offering and effectively communicating this value proposition to decision-making committees is crucial for success. 

Kevin emphasizes the importance of providing memorable examples and enabling customers to become effective ambassadors for the proposed solution. By focusing on the "why," sales teams can establish a deeper connection with customers and increase the chances of winning complex enterprise deals.

"When you go to these decision-making committees, there's always others on the committee, but not necessarily in the room with you that are very interested in the why." - Kevin Sheehan

Resources

Ciena

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.

Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com.

4.            This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode, host Donald Kelly speaks with Jack Funk from a small startup called Salesforce in the Silicon Valley area. Jack shares his experiences and strategies for closing deals in one call. With over three years of experience at Salesforce and as a certified admin, Jack has honed his skills in simplifying the sales process and bridging the gap between client problems and solutions.

Keeping it Simple

     Jack emphasizes the importance of keeping the sales process as simple as possible to increase the chances of closing a deal in one call. He believes in the KISS principle (Keep it Simple, Stupid), which involves making it easy for prospects to buy from you.

     Rather than scheduling multiple calls for demos and presentations, Jack believes in providing all necessary information during the initial call. This approach saves time and caters to the busy schedules of decision-makers.

Demonstrating Value

     When speaking with potential clients, Jack typically starts the conversation by getting to know their needs and pain points. If the prospect seems like a good fit, he quickly transitions to a live demo or screen-sharing session.

     By showing a personalized demonstration of how Salesforce can solve their specific problems, Jack creates a visual and interactive experience that engages the prospect. This approach helps build their understanding and trust in the product.

Sales Karma

     Jack strongly believes in doing what is right for the customer. Instead of overselling or complicating the sales process, he aims to identify the core needs of the prospect and provide them with the exact solution they require.

     This philosophy aligns with his previous VP's motto: "See a bear, shoot a bear." By offering simplicity and addressing the customer's fundamental needs, Jack ensures a seamless sales experience and builds trust.

Catering to SMBs

     While not exclusively limited to small and medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Jack's one-call close strategy is particularly effective. In SMBs, decision-making processes are often simpler and less bureaucratic.

     Jack points out that conversations usually involve one or a few key stakeholders who have the authority to make a purchasing decision. By focusing on these decision-makers and their needs, Jack increases the chances of closing deals in a single call.

Conversion Rate

     With his simplified approach and focus on providing value, Jack achieved an impressive 30% conversion rate using the one-call close strategy.

     While not every conversation resulted in a closed deal, Jack's process allowed him to quickly evaluate prospects and determine if there was a mutual fit.

     He maintained a high closing rate and effectively grew his client base by being efficient with his time and resources.

Closing deals in one call may seem challenging, but Jack's strategies showcase the power of simplicity and personalized demonstrations. Sales professionals can improve their conversion rates by focusing on understanding customer needs, providing clear information, and selling only what is essential. Implementing Jack's one-call close strategy can save time and effort, allowing salespeople to be more productive and successful in their sales endeavors.

"Make it as simple as possible to buy from you. Give the customer every piece of information possible to make a decision, even if they never talk to you again." - Jack Funk

Resources

Jack's LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

1.    This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

2.    This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

3.    This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.

Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com.

4.    This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

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Direct download: TSE_1706.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

You try to do everything you can to keep a prospect happy. By doing so, you believe it will prevent potential buyers from saying no to your services. However, avoiding tension within the sales process is a huge mistake. 

In this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly will discuss why sales reps need to create tension. He will also share different ways to create healthy tension that’ll help you close deals.

Why Do You Need Tension?

  • One problem Donald is seeing is that buyers are taking more time to decide what they should spend their money on. Because of this, sales reps need to ensure their deals, products, or services are good.

  • Buyers' longer decision-making process also makes sales reps more fearful of creating tension. Even when they know their deals are good, sales reps are afraid to upset buyers.

  • Sales representatives must remember that tension isn’t bad.  It’s essential to have tension to help move along the sales process.

Why Do You Need Tension?

  • Don’t hold on to the fear of being declined: Donald discusses that many sales reps don’t push back when a prospect says they’re working with someone else. You can ask the potential buyer who the other vendor they’re working with, so don’t be afraid to do it. If the prospect becomes uncomfortable sharing the information, then it may be a red flag.

  • Go deeper into the follow-up questions: If a prospect says they’re looking for a solution to a problem, then you should ask more questions to discover on the problem is affecting them. 

  • Look at tension as a good thing: Donald compares tension within the sales process to when a person starts working out more. When you first start exercising, your body hurts because you’re building muscles. Seeing it from this perspective should show you that when you create tension, it will provide benefits in the future. 

  • Prospect gives an objection: Most sellers try to jump in and offer deals when a potential buyer objects to their services. Instead, dive deeper and figure out why the prospect is objecting.

Always remember that tension isn’t a bad thing. When you ask questions about a problem a prospect is having, you come across as an expert. Look for ways to have healthy tension in the sales process to help you progress the deal. 

Lastly, don’t end the conversation without having a clear next step. Be sure to set up an appointment with the prospective client to ensure they’re on board with you. 

“Sometimes sales are uncomfortable, and change is not always easy. So if a buyer is changing, there’s going to be a need for tension.” - Donald Kelly

Resource

Donald C Kelly LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.
With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.
Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.
Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com
  • This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.
Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to The Sales Evangelist.com/LinkedIn.

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Direct download: TSE_1705.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Are you sending hundreds of emails, and no one is responding? You must listen to this week’s episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast to help you discover new outreach methods. 

Your host, Donald Kelly, speaks with Tom Slocum on the state of sales outreach. Listen to their advice on emailing, so potential customers will be more willing to work with you.

Trends in Email Outreach

  • During a conference, Tom discovered that many sales reps don’t follow up on emails. If you notice potential customers haven’t replied, try doing a follow-up email.
  • When writing emails, it’s best to be creative to help make the message more personalized. You can do this by adding visualizations to bring a human effort into play.
  • Consider including a video or voice memos to help make emails more engaging and personal.
  • When sales reps take the extra step within their emails, it creates personalization. By taking the extra step, you make potential clients feel as though you care about their problems. 
  • You don’t have to be super personal in every email you send. Tom discusses the importance of bucketing and prioritizing when sending emails.

Personalization Is Not Personalization

  • Personalization is not bringing up random topics and hoping a prospective client will start conversing with you. 
  • You need to really pay attention to how they’re a good fit for the product you’re selling. Once you discover this, you can send an email discussing your services and how you can potentially help them.
  • Remember clients want to feel as though you actually care about them and their problems.

Advice For Management 

  • It can be hard to test new methods when you’re leading a team that’s sending 5,000 emails every day. Tom discusses why sales managers should create microenvironments, where certain teams test new methods.
  • When the whole team tests a new method it can become scary. Either you or a specific group of people should test new methods to prevent everyone from worrying if it will work or not.
  • Microenvironments also allow managers to evaluate theories effectively. After testing your methods on 100 accounts, ask for feedback to see if there was an improvement in the email outreach strategy.

Using AI Tools for Email Outreach

  • Tom shares how to use AI tools for creativity when sending emails to potential clients. 
  • He provides an example of how to research clients with AI tools and make personalized emails.
  • The key is to use AI to help you work smarter, not harder.

After listening to this episode, take some time to reflect on these methods and apply them to your outreach strategy. Don’t forget to find Donald on LinkedIn and let him know if these methods worked for you. 

“Everybody is going left, then you should go right. Try to be different to strike something within the person you’re emailing to help you stand out.” - Tom Slocum

Resources

Donald Kelly LinkedIn

Tom Slocum LinkedIn

 
Sponsorship Offers
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.
With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.
Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.
Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com
  • This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.
Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to The Sales Evangelist.com/LinkedIn.

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Direct download: TSE_1704.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 10:28am EDT

The most powerful online tool for sales professionals is LinkedIn. You know the platform is a goldmine for finding prospects and connecting with others in the industry.

Currently, you have 400 connections on LinkedIn. But, have you even said anything to them besides Happy Birthday?

Most people don’t know how to use LinkedIn properly. You may not even know how to start a conversation to make someone say more than “thank you.”

In this week’s episode of the Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly shares his hidden strategy for starting conversations on LinkedIn. Listen to Donald’s advice to make prospective buyers reply to your messages.

Don’t Engage in LinkedIn Phishing

  • Do you send hundreds of automated emails hoping someone will bite? You do know this is basically email spam on LinkedIn, right? Instead, pretend it’s the 1950s and start conversations like people used to do.

  • Silver Bullet: LinkedIn shares other celebrations with you besides birthdays. Donald tells you why it’s vital to pay attention to these.

  • Also, Donald shares a story of how he uses this LinkedIn feature uniquely. He discovered the key to making people respond to messages faster.

Consider Sending a Video

  • You may be nervous about getting on camera, but it could lead to more engagement on LinkedIn. It's worth you overcoming your fears and taking this risk.

  • Donald discovered by sending a personal video that his LinkedIn connection was more willing to do business.

  • Pay attention to birthdays, work anniversaries, and promotions. You can use these celebrations to start great conversations on LinkedIn.

  • Are you struggling to create the perfect LinkedIn profile? Check out our 6-week LinkedIn Prospecting Course and start generating 3-5 appointments per week.

Donald shares insightful advice within this week’s episode. Subscribe and listen to The Sales Evangelist Podcast for more LinkedIn strategies.

Resources

The Sales Evangelist LinkedIn Course

Sponsorship Offers
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.
With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.
Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.
Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com
  • This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.
Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to The Sales Evangelist.com/LinkedIn.

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As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1703.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Another economic crisis is happening, so what does this mean for the sales industry?

In this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly speaks with Jeffrey Hayzlett about what to do during these challenging times. Discover how to increase your sales when the economy faces a crisis in this episode.

Jefferey Hayzlett Background

  • Jefferey has years of experience working as a primetime TV and radio host.
  • He is now the owner and chairman of the C-suite network. The network includes radio stations, television shows, and podcast shows.
  • He shares his knowledge of success to help others achieve their success in life.
  • After experiencing several financial crises, he learned to turn the negatives into positives during tough times. Within this episode, he will share this knowledge to help you conquer challenging situations as a sales representative.

Past Downturns

  • Jefferey explains past financial crises, returning to the economic crisis of 1907. However, despite these challenging times, they still had good aspects.
  • For example, during the economic crisis of 1907, the birth of General Motors happened. 
  • He is trying to point out that businesses can be created or bounced back even if a financial crisis is happening.

How to Thrive During a Downturn

  • Instead of focusing on the negatives, focus on the steps to make changes.
  • Businesses have to adapt and be relentless during tough times. Jeffery shares a story of him working with a company during the financial crisis of 2007 and 2008. The company had to lay off 8500, and billions of dollars were affected during this time. However, the company was able to survive during this challenging period.
  • There will always be bad times for a company, and there's no way to escape it. During these dire times, you must remember not to complain and take action. 
  • Next, ensure every team member in your company is aligned with the mission. This means everyone knows where the company is going and how it will happen.
  • Make sure you set the right mood for the company. If everyone believes their best days are behind them, then it is. 
  • Lastly, remember to always communicate with your team. Let everyone know your plans and the steps or actions you need for them to take to make your goals happen. 

During a downturn, it's essential for you to stop focusing on the negatives and develop a plan to make changes. With this week's episode, Jeffrey shares that it's all about mindset and your actions on how you can keep growing your business during tough times. 

Also, host Donald and guest speaker Jeffrey share insight on what you should be doing with your LinkedIn connections. Subscribe and listen to the Sales Evangelist podcast to get real and actionable tips for the sales industry.

"For all those sitting out there saying, hey, it's not possible, Oh, it's too tough. Start selling and start making some moves; find some whitespace. You know, 53% of your customers would do more business with you right now. If you ask." - Jeffrey Hayzlett

Resources

Jeffrey Hayzlett email: jeffrey.hayzlett@csuitenetwork.com

hayzlett.com

Jeffrey Hayzlett Twitter

Jeffrey Hayzlett Instagram

C Suite Network

Sponsorship Offers
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.
With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.
Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.
Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com
  • This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.
Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to The Sales Evangelist.com/LinkedIn.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

What can you expect regarding AI technology and the sales industry? Is it going to replace sales representatives? How can you coach your sales reps with the use of AI?

In this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly speaks with John Barrow on the future of AI and the sales industry. Discover how leaders can leverage AI tools within the sales profession.

John Barrows Background

  • John Barrow owns the JB sales company, offering sales training to tech companies.
  • He started his career when the internet was still in its fancy and saw the changes it made within the sales industry during this time.
  • Now, he is seeing the industry change once again due to the development of artificial intelligence tools, such as Chat GPT.
  • John knows with the changes made by AI technology, the sales industry will have to evolve with the tools to be successful.

Teaching People to Be Robots

  • Learning the sales process is becoming more difficult because leaders teach representatives how to use AI tools rather than the fundamentals. The sales reps have nothing to fall back on and are getting replaced by robots.
  • Currently, he is working with AI tools for learning language models. It’s helping him gather a large pool of data and use only the information he approves in the LLM system. The AI tools help cut back research time for him and his team.
  • John believes using AI technology will help coach sales reps more effectively. If a person cannot receive coaching from their boss, they can rely on the coaching from an AI tool.

The Problem With Coaching in the Sales Industry

  • While listening to a 45-minute sales call with a representative, it can be challenging for a coach to pull out every context of the call during a conversation. AI can transcribe the call and allow a coach to pinpoint a specific point where a sales rep needs improvement.
  • Another area for improvement with LLM is teaching the sales reps how to sell a product correctly. Using an AI bot can help coach sales reps to sell products. John provides an example of using Salesforce and coaching sales reps.

Do You Want to Be a Part of the Solution?

  • AI is an evolution, like the Industrial Revolution, where companies need to think about how to use humans to operate AI. Learn how to leverage AI tools to stay afloat within the industry.
  • Sales reps need to meet the customers where they are in support needs and educate them on how to use products. It will require sales reps to go further than full-cycle sales and know the product well.

What Should Sales Leaders Do Right Now?

  • John recommends that sales leaders turn their sales order into a sales lab, identify a component of the sales process, and do a sales hackathon. Listen to the podcast on how a sales leader can do this with the help of AI technology. 
  • Understand the importance of using AI within the sales industry. It increases employee satisfaction and engagement and reduces tech stack and spending. There will be a rebirth of everything in two to five years, and it could go really good or bad.

John provides insight into using AI technology within the sales industry. Subscribe to the Sales Evangelist podcast and listen to how to use AI tools to help coach your team of sales representatives. 

“And I think what happened with Chad GPT and those tools that came out earlier this year is a fundamental shift. We are at Pandora's box right now. And it got opened, and we're not going back.” - John Barrows

Resources

www.jbarrows.com

John Barrows LinkedIn

John Barrows Instagram

JB Make It Happen Mondays Podcast

Sponsorship Offers
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.
With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.
Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.
Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com
  • This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.
Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to The Sales Evangelist.com/LinkedIn.

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As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1701.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Are you scared to make that cold call?

Your heart is pounding fast, and your hands shake as you pick up the phone to call a random stranger.

Are they going to take the time to listen to you? Will you be able to make a sale? Or are they going to say something rude and hang up the phone?

If you’re nervous about making the phone call, you must listen to this week’s episode of the Sales Evangelist Podcast. Host Donald Kelly speaks with Larry Long Jr. on how sales representatives can overcome their fears of making the call. Listen for insightful tips on overcoming your fears of cold calling.

Who Is Larry Long Jr.?

   Larry Long Jr. is a keynote speaker and MC coach with years of experience in the sales profession.

   He helps other sales representatives with performance coaching, sales, entrepreneurship, business, and training.

   He now hosts The Cold Calling Podcast, where he coaches sales representatives in making cold calls.

How Do You Overcome the Fear of Failure?

   Larry shares a story of him making a cold call, and the person told him to jump off a bridge. Unsure what to say next, he told the person to have a blessed day and hung up the phone.

   How did he overcome this rejection? He kept going and continued to make phone calls and didn't let one objection hold him back from making sales.

   For you to overcome the fear of failure, give yourself grace. Yes, you will make mistakes, and potential clients will object to the sale you're offering, but you must keep going.

Changing Your Mindset

   Larry shares a story of him playing baseball in college, and he was at the point where he wanted to give up. His dad told him not to give up and to have a positive attitude. He noticed a change in his baseball career once he changed his mindset and kept practicing.

   Larry and Donald share the importance of working with a company that strives to improve their employees. It’s also a good idea to seek advice from co-workers on how to do better.

Winners Focus on Winning and Losers Focus on Winners

   Don't focus on another person's chapter in their career. You have no clue how hard things were for them in the beginning.

   Instead, focus on yourself and seek to improve from the day before.

   Have a purpose for why you must work hard and stick to it. Also, know everything will be okay when you focus on yourself instead of others.

The Moral Obligation to Make the Cold Call

   Larry shares an inspiring quote from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., "Life's most persistent urge and urgent question is, what are you doing to help someone else?"

   Apply this quote to how you handle cold calls, and don't think about your needs. The sales industry is about solving problems and helping people.

   Listen to the Cold Calling podcast if you need help handling cold calls better. It'll help you leave your comfort zone and start putting yourself out there.

This episode should motivate you to pick up the phone and make that cold call. Get out of your head and start making those cold calls today!

Subscribe to the Sales Evangelist Podcast to become a better sales representative. Your host, Donald Kelly, is always here to help you achieve greatness and win big in the sales industry.

“Sales is about service. It's about helping other people solve their problems. And just being empathetic, which sounds good. But it's amazing when you put it into practice.” - Larry Long Jr.

Resources

Larry Long Jr. LinkedIn

Larry Long Jr.'s website

Jolt - Larry Long Jr.’s book

Cold Calling Podcast

Sell It Like A Mango - Donald C. Kelly’s book

Sponsorship Offers
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.
With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.
Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.
  • This episode is brought to you in part by Calendly.
Calendly is the leading meeting scheduling software that automates your scheduling, speeds up your sales cycle, and closes more deals. Get started for free or learn more at calendly.com
  • This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.
Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to The Sales Evangelist.com/LinkedIn.

Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1700.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Why having a sales trainer is a good idea?

In this episode of the Sales Evangelist podcast, host Donald Kelly will provide four benefits to having one. If you’re ready to save time and elevate your game, listen to why you need a sales trainer to help you achieve greatness!

Why Listen to Donald on Sales Training?

  • He has years of experience as a sales representative, sales leader, and individual contributor.

  • Based on his three levels of experience within the sales industry, he will share the difference between those who do and don’t receive sales training. 

  • Donald shares his experience working with two companies that didn’t provide sales training. He had to figure out how to make sales independently and often struggled to close deals.

  • When he started working with a company that provided sales training, he received a $30,000 deal within his first three months of working with them.

  • Thanks to the third company investing in a sales training program, they were able to help their representatives improve their process.

Sales Training Brings New Ideas

  • A great sales trainer will bring fresh concepts to improve sales. Donald noticed after receiving sales training, he started to come up with different ideas on how he could improve his techniques.

  • Companies can work with other organizations to understand what works and is not working within the industry. The ideas they receive help them create a sales process to win over potential customers.

  • However, you must work with a sales trainer who is up-to-date with today’s methods and can provide fresh ideas. The new ideas give sales representatives the confidence to apply different techniques. 

A Sales Trainer Helps Improve Your Process

  • Remember, sales fundamentals don’t change, but the process will! 

  • Don’t make the mistake of working with someone using an outdated sales process. Once again, you need someone skilled in using today's digital methods.

  • 50% of potential customers are millennials, so it’s essential to have a sales process that will connect with them.

Sales Trainers Can Help You Save Time

  • As a leader, you can’t do everything on your own. You want your sales team to have the proper training, but you can’t provide one-on-one care to them. 

  • A sales trainer will help you save time and provide the proper training to your representatives. Listen to Donald explain how a sales trainer can effectively organize and guide your team.

Generate ROI With Sales Training

  • A good sales trainer will be able to provide examples of how they have helped other companies.

  • Look at their case studies to see how they improved the sales process for others.

  • Find a sales trainer that is actually selling!

  • A proven track record will let you know the effectiveness of their work.

These are the four benefits of working with a sales trainer. Donald Kelly still provides sales training and has a proven track record; visit the Sales Evangelist website to learn more.

Also, don’t forget to subscribe to the Sales Evangelist Podcast!

Resources

The Sales Evangelist

Donald C Kelly LinkedIn

Donald C Kelly Instagram

Donald C kelly TikTok

Sponsorship Offer

This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1699.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

For the last few years, you have relied heavily on SEO strategies to attract customers to your business. Of course, there's nothing wrong with this. But as your business grows, you may want to hire a seller to attract more leads and improve sales.

But how do you know you have found the right person to improve your sales strategies?

In this unique episode of the Sales Evangelist Podcast, host Donald Kelly does a live coaching session with Cat Hutchings to help her find the perfect seller for her new business. Whether you're a business owner, sales professional, or simply interested in improving your sales approach, this episode offers actionable tips and advice.

Cat Hutchings Background

  • Cat Hutchings is a successful entrepreneur and Etsy owner of Spotlight Jewelry.
  • She also coaches other Etsy owners to become successful on the e-commerce website.
  • Cat is in the works of launching another business, so she came to Donald asking questions on how to find the ideal salesperson to join her team. 

Live Coaching Session: Hiring the Right Salespeople

  • Many business owners ask themselves whether they should hire an individual or an agency when trying to get leads.
  • Donald suggests using tools such as Apollo IO to attract leads. These tools allow you to view names, email addresses, and other contact information.
  • If you decide to hire an individual, ensure they know how to handle the entire sales process and not just the end.

Effective Outreach Strategies

  • As a salesperson, you must research to target the right customers. Cat shares an example of a sales representative who researched her before reaching out.
  • However, the sales representative did make a minor mistake, and Donald shared feedback on what he could’ve done better.
  • Deep research and tools like CrunchBase can help identify relevant individuals. One can craft personalized and impactful outreach messages that resonate with potential customers by leveraging visible triggers or signals.

B2B vs. B2C Companies and Marketing Collaboration

  • Donald highlights the importance of collaboration between marketing and sales in B2B sales. While marketing lays the groundwork by running ads, email campaigns, blogs, and LinkedIn ads to attract the right audience, sales professionals take over to engage in one-on-one conversations and drive potential customers toward making a purchase.
  • B2C sales typically have shorter cycles, often requiring a more transactional approach. However, certain products and services can be sold remotely and automatically through websites, reducing the need for active outbound efforts. 
  • Donald also shares the difference between working with a startup and a well-established company. 
  • Startups can attract individuals hungry for new challenges, those looking to add startup experience to their resumes, and professionals seeking to make a noticeable impact within smaller organizations. 
  • While there is an inherent level of risk, social proof and a proven track record can significantly attract the right individuals.

 Are Sales and Marketing the Same?

  • You may think that marketing and sales are the same thing, but it’s not. 
  • Marketing is attracting leads to your business and getting them to the checkout point.
  • Sales is the process of payment transactions within the business. 

 Importance of Systems and Processes

  • Donald emphasizes creating reliable systems and processes, particularly in sales. 
  • Documenting procedures and creating playbooks can make transferring roles within a team easier and more efficient. 
  • Strong systems and processes are vital in facilitating business growth and scalability.

Host Donald Kelly shares insightful strategies for hiring the right people for your sales teams. He also advises attracting ideal customers, navigating B2B and B2C sales, and optimizing outreach efforts. Whether you're a business owner, sales professional, or aspiring entrepreneur, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge to help you succeed in the competitive sales world.

"Finding the right people shouldn't be a challenge as individuals are willing to take the leap and join a startup." - Donald Kelly.

Resources

Cat Hutchings LinkedIn

Cat Hutchings Instagram

www.cathutchings.com

SpotLightJewelry

Apollo IO

Crunchbase

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1.  Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time insights.
  2. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.
  3. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1698_.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

What makes some individuals outshine others in the sales profession?

In this episode, our host, Donald Kelly, shares valuable insights on how sales professionals can thrive by mastering communication skills and taking imperfect action. As a seasoned sales expert, Kelly has built a successful empire, starting from a $39 microphone, and now running the Sales Evangelist and TSE Studios. 

Join us as we delve into the key skills to help you succeed in the competitive sales world!

 The Journey of Donald Kelly

  • Kelly shares his journey in building the Sales Evangelist podcasting empire. 
  • The skills and experience he gained as a sales professional contributed to his success.
  • Currently, at Podcast Movement, Kelly teaches podcasters how to sell their podcasts effectively and imparts valuable sales principles.

 The Key Skills for Effective Sales Communication

  • Within the ten years of Kelly building his podcast empire and being a sales professional, he learned five effective skills that helped him succeed.
  • These skills he shares can help sales professionals to thrive in any environment and adjust their strategies accordingly.

 1. Finding People with Problems and Offering Solutions

  • Finding potential clients who have problems is the main role of a sales professional.
  • Using tools like Chat GPT, Apollo IO, and LinkedIn Sales Navigator, sales reps can identify individuals using competitor software. 
  • By reaching out to these prospects, sales professionals can offer solutions to their problems, such as difficulty generating reports using their current CRM software.

 2. Mastering Communication Skills for Success

  • Effective communication is the key to conveying the value of what sales professionals have to offer. 
  • By practicing active listening, reflecting on past calls, and analyzing areas for improvement, such as asking more questions, using storytelling, or employing analogies, sales professionals can become exceptional communicators. 
  • Kelly highly recommends that sales reps enhance their communication skills with the Toastmasters program.

 3. Adaptability and Creativity

  • You must be able to adapt to the changes within the sales world. This is the best way for you to thrive within different environments.
  • Be creative in your sales approach when reaching out to prospective clients. Consider using Chat GPT to create successful sales strategies in emails. You can also brainstorm with others to learn their secret tactics. 
  • Kelly suggests looking into Dale Dupree on how sales representatives can stand out among their prospective clients.

 4. Design a Clear Plan 

  • You can’t just wing it as a salesperson; you must go into every approach with a clear plan.
  • Donald shares his book, “Sale it Like a Mango,” to help sales representatives create a daily plan.
  • Remember, you must think like an entrepreneur to thrive as a sales representative!

 5. Taking Imperfect Action and A Positive Attitude

  • Taking action is often more critical than perfect planning. Imperfect action allows for learning, iterating, and improving along the way. 
  • While setbacks and rejection are common in sales, maintaining a positive attitude is crucial. Believing in the value of one's product or service and confidently promoting it sets the foundation for success. 
  • Receiving a "no" should not discourage sales professionals from pursuing future opportunities.

Donald provided actionable insights for sales professionals looking to thrive in their careers. Remember, success in sales is not just about planning but also about taking action and learning from it!

“My philosophy is to be successful you must do the opposite of what everyone else is doing. If you can do that, money in the bank all day long.” - Donald Kelly

Ready to take your sales skills to the next level? Don't miss out on valuable insights and strategies from industry experts. Subscribe to The Sales Evangelist podcast today and gain exclusive access to episodes that will transform your sales techniques.

Direct download: TSE_1697.mp3
Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Everyone fears AI tools will steal jobs, especially in sales.

However, this is far from the truth! These advanced chatbots are here to make our work easier and get things done more efficiently. You just have to learn to use the AI tools and ChatGPT to your advantage. 

The host, Donald Kelly, and special guest, David Kreiger, founder of SalesRoads, explain how in this episode. They emphasize the importance of using AI to enhance the understanding of customers and prospects rather than merely automating processes. So, let's dive in and discover the power of composed audio and AI in sales.

Utilizing Chat GPT for Role Playing and Coaching

       Most people find it challenging to use Chat GPT and feel the tool doesn't create exactly what they want.

       Kriger shares why you should give Chat GPT a persona when interacting with the tool and creating content.

       He also provides an example of how sales representatives can role-play with the tool to create buyer personas.

       You shouldn't rely solely on it to build customer profiles and buyer personas. Instead, view AI and Chat GPT as helpful tools within the sales process.

Unveiling the Potential of AI in Marketing

       Donald discusses the introduction of Facebook ads and discovering the impact of incorporating complexity and more details in their ad content.

       They admit their early struggles with Facebook ads but highlight the pivotal role played by grasping the significance of feeding in detail.

       They express gratitude for the eye-opening insights shared by their conversation partner, acknowledging the transformative power of AI tools in generating different iterations of an ideal customer profile.

The Benefits of AI in Crafting Ideal Customer Profiles and Buyer Personas

       The conversation delves into building ideal customer profiles and buyer personas using AI and chat GPT.

       Kriger emphasizes the value of engaging in conversations with the target market to create accurate profiles.

       He also highlights how AI tools can facilitate information generation and effortlessly interact with personas, providing insights that would be otherwise unattainable daily.

 The Three Tactical Ways to Use Chat GPT

       Tell Chat GPT who it is: It is still in its early stage, and you have to be as detailed as possible to get the desired results when using the tool.

       Take advantage of Chat GPT: Remember, it's not here to take our jobs! People who know how to use AI tools effectively will be the ones to excel in the sales profession. So, take advantage of this accessible technology and learn how to use it properly.

       Start using AI tools: If you want to create ICP, give it your marketing and buyer's persona information. You can only get good at using the tools by interacting with them and testing what does and doesn't work.

"AI doesn't replace people; it gives you additional capabilities and superpowers." -David Kreiger

Do you want to revolutionize sales performance and succeed in sales strategies? We know you do! So, be sure to follow the Sales Evangelist podcast to hear more from our wonderful guests!

Resources

David LinkedIn

Sales Road website

 Sponsorship Offers

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  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time insights.
  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.
  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Many sellers struggle with pushing clients to close a deal because they don't want to appear too strong. In this episode of the Sales Evangelist podcast, host Donald Kelly speaks with L'areal Lipkins, a B2B sales team consultant. L'areal shares insightful questions to drive urgency and motivate prospects to act more quickly.

Who Is L’areal Lipkins?

  • L'areal owns Lipkins Consulting Group and works with B2B sales teams to sell value.

  • She helps teams optimize their sales processes by applying guided strategies and psychology. 

  • Through her teachings, sales teams can understand why they're doing things and not only focus on selling tactics. 

  • She helps people make more money!

The Problem With Urgency

  • There are two types of salespeople: those who are too pushy and those who wait to close a deal. 

  • Don’t make the mistake of conversing too long or coming off too strong. It can cost you money!

  • Use the Whole Pie framework to create value and urgency with enriching questions.

What Is the Whole Pie Framework?

  • The Whole Pie framework uncovers the real problem prospects are having and helps sellers to dive deeper into discovering it.

  • Sellers ask three types of questions: problem, impactful, and emotional.

  • With the framework, sellers can show prospects that their situation is important to them and they want to fix the problem.

Problem Questions

  • These questions involve what prospects are comfortable discussing. 

  • Sellers don't have to dive too deep into finding the problem.

  • Problem questions include, "Tell me about that" or "When did you first notice this?"

  • 80% of sellers make the mistake of selling the problem!

Impact Questions

  • These create a ripple effect of discovering actions prospects actions in making sales. 

  • How is it impacting the team, company, and association?

  • Only 10% of sellers ask impact questions!

  • Why don't sellers ask more impactful questions? The two reasons are the need for more training and learning to use their words.

Emotion Questions

  • Most salespeople don't ask these questions because they don't want to get too personal. Only the elite sellers dive this deep!

  • Emotion questions are "I'm so tired of this not working" or "I feel overwhelmed."

  • Sellers discover the personal impact that's keeping prospects from closing a deal.

“But we all have problems; we're not going to pay enough, we're not going to pay because they're not big enough to solve.” - L’areal Lipkins

Do you want to make more money? Of course, you do! Connect with L’areal Lipkins and follow the Sales Evangelist podcast to become a better seller.

Resources

L’areal Lipkins LinkedIn

Lipkins Consulting Group

What Top Performing Sales People Do Different?

PIE magnet

Sponsorship Offer

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing, and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In today’s episode, our host, Donald Kelly, speaks with guest Tim Rohrer. Rohrer has years of experience in radio advertisement and is the author of “Sales Lessons From the World’s Greatest Mentor.” Discover how he learned the hard way that time kills sales.

Time can kill sales: How is this possible?

  • Tim shares his first loss while working as a radio advertisement before the days of social media. During that time, it was essential for a salesperson to have personal conversations with prospective clients. Tim found the perfect client and connected with him. He returned to his office to create a proposal and place it in a file until the meeting day.


  • However, Tim saw him two days later, and the client asked him a question in an odd way. Tim didn’t think much about it, but his gut told him he should. When the meeting day came, he soon discovered why closing a deal is crucial when you have prospective customers where you want them.


  • Always close a deal quickly and use tools to help you do so. For example, consider creating sales templates to give potential clients an idea of what they’re getting into. Then have them come in the very next day to have them sign the contract.

 Strike while the iron is hot!

  • Those within real estate know, more than likely, there will always be two decision-makers when closing a deal. You show them everything they need to know to help them decide immediately.


  • However, one potential client says we must consider it, and the other agrees. Do you let them leave so they think about it? 


  • The short answer to this is no! Tim shares why you must keep questioning them when they tell you we’ll think about it.

 What if the decision-makers are away?

  • Tim shares why salespeople need to improve their communication and presentation skills. You won’t always be selling directly to the decision-makers. Sometimes you have to deal with the influencers. 


  • Influencers are your future salespeople. However, they’re not as good as you!


  • Tim shares how you can help them remember key points of your presentation, so they’ll do an excellent resale to the decision makers.

“Be ready to do business today with people who say yes” - Tim Rohrer

 Resources

Tim Rohrer’s Book: Sales Lessons From The World’s Greatest Mentor 

Tom Freeze’s Book: question-based selling

 Website: TimJMRohrer.com

 Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

2.            These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

3.            We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

You find the perfect client and start proposing a deal with them. When you are about to close the sale, the potential client says, “I have to think about it.”

What are you going to do now? 

In this episode, host Donald Kelly talks with Marcus Chan, the founder of Henley Consulting Group. Chan shares the Heart Framework to help sales reps overcome objections.

HEART Framework

  • H - Heard. Use this framework for any objection thrown your way. For example, if the objection is, let me think about it, start with the letter H for heard. You show them a little empathy and make them feel heard.

  • E - Elaborate. Next, have them discuss what is on their mind with the letter E and elaborate on the objection. Ask, "Can you tell me more about that?" Marcus provides an excellent example of how digging deeper can help sales reps find the root objection.

  • A - Aside from that objection. After you have them elaborate more, move on to A, aside from that objection. Do they have any other questions or comments that may make them object to the deal?

  • R - Rectify Value -  Make them tell you why they should take the deal. While they are talking about it, ask them what they like most about it or how they think it can improve their business.

  • T - Transition to Close. After this, you may notice that they no longer have the same objection, move on to the letter T. The T stands for transition to a close.

  • Show your potential clients how you can help them overcome their objections. For example, you can include a happiness guarantee within your contract.

Tonality: does it make a difference?

  • The way you deliver your message will relay differently to your clients. Your tone can show them that you care about their problem or it can make them feel like you’re just trying to close the deal.

  • If your delivery isn’t making them feel at ease, their brain goes into fight or flight mode. By making them comfortable with your tone, they’re less likely to do this and more likely to listen to what you say.

Why don't most sellers ask more questions?

  • Often it's due to fear of not knowing what to say in case of an objection. However, some sellers are more worried about getting the sales as quickly as possible.

  • Don't make the mistake of offering discounts and using closing tactics immediately. You're causing more problems and avoiding finding the real objection.

  • Instead of rushing, take your time and converse with the potential buyer. Eventually, they'll open up and tell you everything you need.

Do you want to start practicing the HEART framework?

  • If you listen to the end, Marcus shares a detailed step-by-step for BDRs. It’s pretty simple, and you’ll probably have tons of fun while practicing the framework. Doing it daily will help you become great at using the HEART framework.

Resources

LinkedIn

6-Figure Sales Secret Book

Sponsorship Offer

This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing, and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Quality beats quantity when it comes to lead generation, prospecting, and moving customers through your sales funnel. Knowing who to talk to and how to reach them can save you from getting caught up in drawn-out back and forths with the wrong people. In today’s episode, our host Donald Kelly meets with Dave Fink, the CEO and Co-founder of Postie. They talk about boosting efficiency and effectiveness in the sales process through focusing on ideal buyers.

A Clear ICP Leads to Efficiency

  • Casting a wide net and gathering as many leads as possible may sound like a great sales strategy, but it isn’t the most efficient.

  • Developing specific Ideal Customer Profiles (ICPs) can help sellers identify customers that are a perfect fit.

  • Weeding out clients won’t be a perfect fit may seem time-consuming, but in the long run, you avoid wasting time with prospects who can’t, or won’t, become customers.

Engage the Right People

  • Not everyone in the company is a decision-maker or influencer. The people who stand to benefit from your product may not have the power to buy, so figure out who does.

  • With recent layoffs all over the tech industry, there are fewer people in companies so it may be easier to reach decision-makers.

  • Not all decision-makers think or act the same way. Things change. Consider how macro trends may be impacting them and treat them with empathy.

Handling Discovery Properly

  • Do research about the person you’re going to be talking to and the company they’re a part of. Knowing their position in the company can help you understand their point of view.

  • Just like doctors can have a great bedside manner that makes you feel safe and comfortable, sellers who treat discovery like a conversation rather than an interrogation will have more success.

“I very much believe that information is power. Quite frankly, if you’re an inquisitive person, whether you’re successful in a specific prospecting initiative or sales cycle, you’re going to learn something from it.” – Dave Fink

Resources

Check out the website: http://postie.com for great content!

Connect with Dave Fink on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time insights.

  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s challenging to be in sales right now, and keeping up isn’t enough – it’s time to get ahead of the curve. Bringing AEs and BDRs together to learn from each other will make your organization stronger and more cohesive. In today’s episode, our host Donald Kelly meets with Katie Swick, the Global Sales Enablement Lead at Stripe, to hear how her team’s collaborative approach to learning has revolutionized the way they sell.  

 A Symbiotic Relationship

  • When AEs help educate BDRs, the BDRs in turn become better at finding quality leads. This makes the AE’s job easier in the long run.
  • BDRs learn better prospecting skills AND what makes a good AE through the program. This makes them more effective in their current positions but also prepares them to be great AEs in the future.
  • AEs also report learning a lot from the process and see the value in training BDRs – they volunteer to help out!

 Getting Ahead of the Curve

  • BDRs need to understand how to “lose fast” rather than hang on to prospects that aren’t going to go anywhere. AEs can educate BDRs on how to identify qualified leads.
  • Technology is moving quickly, and prospecting in particular has changed a lot. BDRs can help AEs upgrade their prospecting skills.

 Bridging the Gap Between AEs and BDRs

  • In cases where AEs are too busy to handle all potential accounts, BDRs can jump in and help move smaller clients through the pipeline.
  • AEs also, in some cases, will help BDRs with prospecting to add to the top of their sales funnel.

 “The program is really meant to stay at that cutting edge and say, ‘Hey, what’s working? What’s not? How do we take advantage of that?’ Because we know that a sales technique that worked two years ago probably isn’t going to work today.” – Katie Swick

 Resources

Reach out to Katie Swick on LinkedIn

 Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

2.            These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

3.            We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Midway through the sales process, you might find your deals stagnating because you’re just not talking to the right people. In today’s episode, our host Donald Kelly talks with Jakub Hon about connecting with the stakeholder who can make that final call. We’re sure you’re going to get a lot out of this interview. For more from Jakub, check out his webinar on August 2nd at 8 AM Eastern

Recognize the Buyer

  • The buyer is someone who can say yes, even when the team says no, or vice versa. They have the final say on where the budget is going to be allocated.

  • If your “champion” at the organization is on board, your next task is to probe them for more information that will lead you to the economic buyer.

  • Ask questions about the organization’s approval process so you can start mapping it out.

  • Ask “numbers” questions about budget, revenue, etc. to find out whether your champion knows the answers or knows someone who does.

  • Stay aligned with your champion all the way through the process – you still want them on your team!

Get Your Prospect to a Meeting

  • If your champion doesn’t want you to bypass them to talk to their boss, ask questions they’re not able to answer and they’ll direct you to the person who can. If that doesn’t work, be blunt.

  • It’s okay to give and take. Sellers like to give, don’t forget to ask for something in return! Offer things like demos and free trials in exchange for contact information for higher-ups.

  • If you reach out to the economic buyer and they brush you off onto someone else, ask for a short meeting with them to discuss their perspective on where the business is headed. This won’t be a conversation about features – let them know that!

Encourage Them to Talk

  • If there is information out there on the company, you should already know it. Don’t ask the economic buyer about their value proposition. Do your homework.

  • Start or end the message with questions. Even if they don’t answer the question, it may spark interest.

  • All communication should be relevant and direct.

  • Keep your conversation about business and not about features.

“If you’re not aligning with the economic buyer and you talk just to your champion… usually these deals slip from the pipeline, because, guess what? There’s the competition talking to the [other stakeholders] and involving the economic buyer in their sales process. If you’re not in control of the process, there’s somebody else controlling the process.” – Jakub Hon

Resources

“How to Sell to the C-Suite” Webinar on August 2nd – Registration Link

SALESDOCk.com

Connect with Jakub Hon on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time insights.

  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

Credits

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s time to level up and set yourself apart in an executive’s inbox, but you know it’ll never happen as long as you keep parroting the same lines your prospect gets from every other seller. In today’s episode, our host Donald Kelly gets into why we should NEVER use the phrase “just bumping this up” in a follow-up e-mail. Listen in to hear the things you should say instead!

 The Problem With Saying “Just Bumping This Up”

  • When you say, “Just bumping this up,” you’re prioritizing yourself in their inbox and insinuating that they aren’t organizing their e-mails. This annoys prospects and turns them off.
  • Your prospects are busy people with a lot on their plate. “Just bumping this up,” is a filler phrase that doesn’t add any value and shows a lack of effort on the seller’s part.

 How SHOULD You Follow Up?

  • Focus on the same pain point that you highlighted in the first e-mail. Then show the prospect your solution by making a quick video describing or demoing it.
  • Think from your prospect’s perspective. They’re busy people – if their objection is that they don’t currently have time to meet, let them know you can meet later on.
  • We use the Spotlight feature on LinkedIn SalesNavigator to identify prospects who have posted on LinkedIn during the last 30 days (try it free for 60 days at linkedin.com/tse). Use information from LinkedIn to identify triggers and bring those up in your follow-up.
  • You can also use testimonials or describe the experiences of other clients who you serve.

 “No matter what you sell, whether it’s a water bottle or it’s a complex HR solution for an enterprise-level organization, you need to think, behave, and act like a consultant and recognize the capability in your role, and treat your e-mails and communication accordingly. Otherwise, [prospects] are going to treat you the way that you sound. You don’t want to sound just like a sales professional, just like an order taker. Jump up in your position.” – Donald Kelly

Resources

Check out episode 707 for more ideas on following up!

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1.  Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time insights.
  2. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.
  3. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

 Credits

As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Direct download: TSE_1689.mp3
Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

One size does NOT fit all! Having the power to customize a product or service to fit our needs makes us feel confident in how we’re spending our money. The same is true for our prospects. In today’s episode, our host Donald Kelly meets with Joe Ardeeser, the Founder/CEO of Smart Pricing Table, to talk about using optionality to build trust and give agency to customers.

Ways to Offer Optionality

  • Provide different service lines. If you have a customer who uses one of your services, tell them what else your company can do for them.
  • Customize individual services. Talk to your customers about ways they can configure your service to work better for them.
  • Offer options for different budgets. If you can’t downsize your offer, you might lose big deals.

Build Trust With Prospects

  • Offering a “good”, “better”, and “best” option can help customers feel comfortable because they can see that you’re not just trying to get the most money possible out of them.
  • Buyers need to feel like they have agency and control over how much they want to spend and what they’re getting out of the deal.
  • Prospects are probably going to have conversations with other stakeholders before buying. Arm them with the knowledge of your optionality so they can consider things in their own time.

Don’t Lose Deals

  • You can’t make EVERYTHING optional. Make sure the service will work, even if the customer wants a very stripped-down version.
  • When customers don’t choose your product, most of the time you’re not going to know why.
  • If you make it so that your prospect can add or subtract services to adjust the price, you can avoid losing deals by small margins.

“Take some time to think through what you sell and define it well so that you can build things quicker. When you build things quicker, you have more options.” – Joe Ardeseer

Resources

Visit SmartPricingTable.com to schedule a demo!

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time insights.

  2. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  3. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Prepare yourself: next time you pick up the phone for a discovery call, you’ll know exactly how to engage your prospect and let THEM convert themselves. In this episode, our host Donald Kelly has a great conversation with David Newman, author of the business bestseller “Do It! Marketing”. They go deep on what makes a successful discovery call, and here’s a hint: it’s not a bunch of small talk. 

Go Deep Fast

  • Don’t spend your discovery call having surface-level conversations. Most sellers don’t go deep enough because they want to be liked and sound smart.
  • Many sellers don’t ask questions to expand upon what prospects tell them. Instead, as David says, take off your ‘sales hat’ and put on your ‘investigative journalist’ hat.
  • Most sales professionals think being likable is the same as being talkative. This is boring to clients – get them talking early and often!

Become a Consultant

  • David’s first question on a discovery call is: how have you arrived at where you are today?
  • Another question David asks prospects is: do you mind if I treat you like a fee-paid client? This takes you and them out of buying-and-selling mode and puts you in a position to tell the prospect helpful information.
  • When you have the prospect’s permission to tell them what they need to hear instead of what they want to hear, you can be real and honest.

Treat Prospects Like Clients

  • Ask: How do you see this ending up if all goes well? (Then ask: “What else?” several times!)
  • Ask: What does that mean for you personally/professionally? What happens financially if this is successful or unsuccessful?
  • Ask: Can you put a number on it? Don’t be afraid to get specific about numbers. 
  • Ask: Who else will notice these improvements? (This is key for finding out who else needs to be involved in this process!)

“The more you treat prospects like clients and customers, the more clients and customers you will get.” – David Newman

 Resources

Order David’s new book, Do It! Selling, from Amazon

Get companion tools, videos, worksheets, and more at http://doitmarketing.com/selling

Set up an exploratory chat with David! http://doitmarketing.com/call

 Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

If you’re not using LinkedIn to build up the front of your sales pipeline, let this be your sign to take the leap. In this episode, our host Donald Kelly has an info-packed conversation with Megan Killion, the powerhouse behind MKC Agency. You probably already know content creation isn’t just about sharing articles and posting pics. Listen in to hear proven strategies for connecting with the right audience and starting quality conversations.

Content Strategy

  • You can’t just “post and ghost”! Your engagement is necessary.
  • Megan cautions against the use of LinkedIn pods that automate engagement using bots. Going this route won’t help you gain traction with the people you want to reach.
  • Her number one tip for aspiring creators on LinkedIn is to use polls. LinkedIn’s algorithm results in more engagement with polls than other kinds of posts, but you have to be strategic about them.

 Identify Ideal Customers

  • When you market to everyone, you market to no one. 
  • Use your ICP (Ideal Customer Profile) to narrow down the list of people you’re interested in reaching with your content.
  • Learn your buyers’ pain points, demographics, values, attitudes, etc. Get as niche as you can.
  • Your ideal audience should be behind you in knowledge by 3-5 years. These people will find your content engaging without feeling like it’s above or below them.

 Setting Up Your Process

  • Make a list of 5-10 subjects that you are an expert on. Within each subject, identify specific teachable topics. This is going to form the basis of the content you create (at least at first). 
  • “Niche down,” just like when you define your ideal customer. Get increasingly more specific about what you know well and speak on those things.
  • Define who you are. Identify your values and the values of your business. Know what makes you unique and capture that in your content.

“Our number one metric across all channels, whether you’re cold-calling, cold-emailing, sending messages, or posting content on LinkedIn, is QC: Quality Conversations. Are you starting quality conversations and finding out more info? If you’re not doing that, that channel is a waste for you.” – Megan Killion

Resources

Follow Megan Killion on LinkedIn - Message her telling her you heard about her on TSE and get access to her framework!

https://mkcagency.com/

Sponsorship Offers

 1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

     I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Don’t be intimidated by the business acumen that gets used every day in C-suite meetings! If you want to hold your own in these conversations and earn a seat at the table time and time again, you’ll need to get educated. We’ve got you. In today’s episode, our host Donald Kelly talks with David Graswick, VP of Sales for Databook. Listen in to learn the metrics you need to understand before meeting with management.

The Language of the C-suite

  • Execs are interested in the big picture. Sellers are not often taught how to have these types of business conversations – mastering this can set you apart.

  • Anyone can say words like “revenue growth” or “back office efficiency,” but if you can become fluent in these topics and personalize discussions to your specific prospects, you’ll be invited into higher-level meetings more often.

  • Sales leaders and sellers need to be educated before they can start having more informed, impactful conversations with buyers.

7 Financial Metrics for Sellers

  1. Revenue Growth. Executives compare their company’s revenue growth to that of their peers. They are motivated to hit targets because the company’s performance is directly linked to their bonuses and compensation.

  2. Profitability. Leaders have shifted away from a “growth-at-all-costs” mindset. In today’s market, sellers need to show how their product helps drive the company toward “smart growth.”

  3. SGNA (Sales, Growth, and Administrative Expenses). These are expenses directly linked to selling the product. The C-suite wants to lower SGNA margins, which can look like doing big deals in a shorter amount of time.

  4. Back-Office Efficiency. You may not have access to all of this information if you’re working with a private company, but you can make educated guesses based on how public peer companies are operating. Even if you’re not always correct, you’re speaking from an educated perspective.

  5. Productivity. Think of this as “revenue-per-employee.” Increasing productivity means finding ways to improve or maintain revenue from customers without increasing costs to the company. 

  6. Investor Sentiment. An exec wants to make sure investors believe the company can meet Street expectations. Identify your prospect’s past issues and show how your product closes the gap between where your prospect is and their projected performance.

  7. Gross Margin. Any expenses that don’t fall into the SGNA category are considered a part of this metric. If you can help companies reduce costs in any way, you will get the C-suite’s attention.

Strategic Relationship-Building With Databook

  • Unlike a lot of other sales technology, Databook was built to help sellers create strategic narratives for their prospects.

  • The key is to align Street expectations, management priorities, and the solutions you provide in a broader narrative.

“You’re probably not going to tell these executives anything about their past performance they don’t already know. But, in my experience… if you can show how they are ranked and compared against their peer group, how that aligns with the Street expectations of your organization over the next two years, and where your solutions can help drive to that… That becomes a different narrative and a much better story that we’ve seen resonate at a much higher rate.” – David Graswick

Resources

http://www.databook.com

Call (412) 807-9119 if you’d like to speak with David directly!

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The differences between you and elite sales earners are probably more subtle and nuanced than you think. In this episode, our host Donald Kelly sits down with sales revenue and profit growth expert Doug C. Brown to talk about the traits of “elite producers.” Listen in to discover the mental patterns that might be holding you back.

What is an Elite Producer?

  • They are both “top producers” (producing articles of value at the top of their industry) and “overachievers” (consistently exceeding expectations).

  • They spend time improving their brain power, seeking out challenges, and bettering themselves.

  • They use leverage to create better results. From each article of value they create (like a sale) they create byproducts (like referrals and networking opportunities).

Adopt the Habits of Top Earners

  • Take the time to learn what holds you back. Work on those “weaknesses” and turn them into strengths. Derive your confidence from that.

  • Figure out your points of leverage and double or triple your efforts in those places.

  • Don’t be afraid to invest. Use company money to encourage your growth and make your business more profitable.

What You Believe Matters

  • Your mind will find reasons not to push for more. Identify those thoughts and recognize that you can push past them if you choose to.

  • If you allow yourself to get discouraged, you set yourself up for failure. If you believe things will go well, you will be more prepared when they do.

“Elite producers really are the 1%ers. I am one, I have been one, and I went to others that I knew and I said… ‘Let’s find the real inward things that people are thinking and doing.’ I was really surprised that it wasn’t really that much different than things a top producer was doing. But there are these slight nuances that are within.” – Doug C. Brown

Resources

Tell Doug C. Brown you heard this episode and get access to his FREE E-book! Send an e-mail to youmatter@ceosalesstrategies.com.

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Connecting with prospects over the phone can be daunting. Your success as a rep comes down to what you say, and more importantly, how you say it. In this episode, Donald Kelly meets with sales expert Jeremy Chen to discuss the dreaded cold call. Chen’s sales team primarily uses cold calling to generate business, but that’s not why he’s so passionate about it. He’s passionate because, in his words, “a cold call saved his life.”

Always Act Like You Belong

  • When job hunting, Chen accidentally called the CEO of a massive Canadian company! Even though the CEO hung up on him, he got a call back a few weeks later that connected him with a job.

  • Because Chen didn’t initially know he was calling the CEO, he didn’t have any tension or fear when he called. Even execs are just people – embrace confidence.

Just Make the Call

  • You never know where a call will take you! When Chen called the CEO of Telus, it completely changed his life.

  • Don’t get discouraged. Hang in there and try not to take the rejection personally. Keep trying.

Use a Pattern Interrupt

  • Chen uses transparency. He actually says, “This is a sales call… Feel free to hang up on me if you don’t take sales calls.” This weeds out the prospects who aren’t interested.

  • If the person doesn’t hang up, Chen doesn’t use industry jargon. He explains things in layman’s terms.

  • He asks questions and LISTENS. Instead of railroading prospects, he lets the prospect explain their pain.

Remember Your Purpose

  • Stay on target. In your first call, all you need to do is book an appointment, not make a sale.

  • You might gain some insights into your prospect’s pain points. Take note, but don’t try to explore the whole story.

  • Offer them a specific time (and place if you’re meeting in person). 

“Just make the call. I know that a lot of reps that I deal with today, they’re nervous, they don’t feel like their leads are the greatest, their territory sucks, whatever. Make the call. You have no idea where your next call is going to take you.” – Jeremy Chen

Resources

Reach out to Jeremy via e-mail: jeremy@jeremychensales.com

For more information, check out: JeremyChenSales.com

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Being a “salesperson” isn’t enough. It’s time to become an industry expert with powerful insights to share with your customers. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly meets with Will Diaz, Vice President of Business Development at Arrive Logistics. Diaz speaks on the 20-week training program BDRs go through when they join the team and how that investment yields results on the sales floor.

Arrive’s 20-Week Training Process

  • 4 weeks are spent in the classroom learning about the freight industry and the ins and outs of the company.

  • A few weeks are spent in an ops brokering program with a sales mentor.

  • Lastly, there are several weeks spent ramping up and then finally, sellers are released onto the floor.

What Are the Results?

  • No one can sell something they don’t understand. Sellers also can’t take people through the sales process without knowing how each stage works or how to troubleshoot issues as they arise.

  • Buyers are going to choose products and companies that provide value. Sellers that are personable and knowledgeable are part of what a company should offer.

  • It does require capital to invest in a 20-week program and that’s not feasible for everyone! A company should aim to provide education and support to sellers as much as they can.

Transform the Mindset

  • Sellers need to think of themselves as business consultants, not just salespeople! This means they need an understanding of the industry and current events surrounding it.

  • Diaz encourages sellers to examine how they’re going to be perceived by an outsider. Prospects might look you up on social media - how do you present yourself?

  • In a conversation with a prospect, the seller’s confidence and command of the situation will depend on how prepared they are to be on those calls.

“The way your people develop and how they’re going to start seeing results is going to be a reflection of how much engagement they get from you and how intentional was it?” – Will Diaz

Resources

Will Diaz on LinkedIn

http://arrivelogistics.com for career opportunities or to learn more about Arrive!

wdiaz@arrivelogistics.com

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Whether you’re a new BDR cutting your teeth in the industry or an experienced seller, you know how it feels to hear these 3 words: “I’m not interested.” How you respond is what defines you as a salesperson and determines your success. In today’s episode, Donald Kelly brings you data from his recent LinkedIn poll and offers a way to shift your mindset so that you can turn rejection into opportunity.

Poll: Most Successful Prospecting Channel

  • 43% of sales professionals that responded to Donald’s LinkedIn poll said the phone is most effective for them.

  • This beats the second-most effective channel, social media, by 15%.

Use Data to Find the Right Prospects

  • Using tools like SalesNavigator, you can put your ICP into LinkedIn and use trigger events to identify sales targets that will be interested in what you have to offer.

  • Identify a person in an organization that meets relevancy criteria: your product is relevant to their role and relevant to an issue they face.

  • Social media can also help clue you in to trigger events. Look for blogs, posts, and other content that reflect problems your product can solve.

What Happens If They’re “Not Interested”?

  • Your prospect may not want to talk to you because you’ve created an interruption, or because they already have a product in place.

  • Don’t be pushy! Find out why they’re not interested and then exit the conversation. You may get pointed in the right direction!

  • Meaningful outreach and meaningful conversation are key. Use your quick call to gain information.

“A conversation is meaningful when [sellers] get intel that can help move the possibility of that deal forward. That’s critical.” – Donald Kelly

Resources

Donald’s LinkedIn poll - Feel free to reach out to him and start a conversation!

Check us out at http://thesalesevangelist.com!

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

Credits

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The discovery call is at the heart of the sales process. If you want to make the most of it, you have to come in with a plan. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly talks with Jessica Schultz, the CEO and Founder of strategic consulting and execution firm Amplify Group. They take you from determining which prospects are worth your 30 minutes, all the way through using your disco to write a great proposal.

Fail Fast - Don’t Waste Time on a Bad Fit

  • New reps often sink a lot of time into every prospect - even unqualified ones. Discovery is all about figuring out whether the person you’re selling to is a good fit.

  • In tough economic times, it gets harder to close deals. Reps might be tempted to try to “make it work”, even if their product isn’t a great fit for the customer. Even if you manage to sell successfully to a “bad fit,” your customer will have a poor experience.

  • Take the time to match your prospect up to your value proposition. If you don’t know your value prop or ICP, work with your sales leader!

Before Your Discovery Call

  • A 30-minute meeting goes by quickly! Send out an e-mail a couple of days before the meeting. Share information about what the business offers to give your buyer an opportunity to ask you questions.

  • Putting the time into doing some research about the company and its pain points shows that you value your buyer’s time, which can help set you apart.

Making the Most of Discovery

  • When you’re doing your Q&A, pay close attention to your prospect’s pain points and outline solutions to them. Use these answers to help build your proposal.

  • Record your calls and use a transcription service to refamiliarize yourself with your buyer before you talk with them again.

  • Offer the price up front! If that disqualifies a lead, you can move on and your prospect will be glad you didn’t waste their time.

“[The discovery call] is super important. It’s your first interaction, your first impression. This is true in any relationship, and sales is a relationship – it’s like a first date. You want it to go well. Leave a good impression.” – Jessica Schultz

Resources

Jessica Schultz on LinkedIn

Amplify (https://www.amplifyscales.com/): Go-To-Market and RevOps Expertise and Execution

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

There’s no point in building pipeline if your buyers get dragged down by an overcomplicated sales process. Offering information on a streamlined, shareable platform just might be your business’s Holy Grail! In this episode, your host Donald Kelly meets with Gal Aga to discuss the challenges of supporting buyers at all stages of the sales process so that your deals actually CLOSE.

Current Challenges B2B Sellers Are Facing

  • Selling SaaS is complex. You’re often working with lots of stakeholders who may not have much context for what you have to offer, so they don’t understand why it’s important.

  • We rely on a lot of decades-old technology. E-mails are difficult to keep straight, but this is still the main way sellers and buyers keep track of where they’re at in the sales process.

  • Top sellers don’t sell, they help buyers buy. Your buyer is your “champion”; they’re willing to go to bat for you. The process shouldn’t be what’s holding them back.

What Does a Digital Sales Room Offer?

  • It’s a workspace that gives you and the prospect a place to keep information straight. 

  • It allows you to embed videos, summaries, case studies, ROI, and proposals. This makes it easy for the buyer to seamlessly bring in other stakeholders.

  • Mutual Action Plans enable sellers and buyers to share information at every stage of the process.

  • Use it for FREE. Not a free trial – your free Digital Sales Rooms can help you close deals as an individual, even if your business isn’t on board (yet).

The Benefits in Practice

  • Buyers have an easier time “choosing” you. Due to buyer complexity, buyers increasingly gravitate towards self-service to reduce the amount of time they spend going back and forth with a seller.

  • Multithreading allows your “champion” to take the information you give them and bring only the relevant information to their stakeholders. 

  • Buyers and sellers have the opportunity to mutually control the process, rather than relying on keeping up spreadsheets and mutual action plans.

  • Buyer visibility. 95% of the time your buyer spends discussing and decision-making with other stakeholders isn’t visible to you. With a Digital Sales Room, you can see who is viewing the information and use this context to offer information and build the right relationships.

“We’re generating unique data points. Today, a lot of things that help you in forecasting are from a revenue intelligence platform, call recording, things that people said, and all that. You’ve already heard it. We’re bringing the asynchronous part… and you can take all of these data points into your CRM and use them to build better forecasting.” – Gal Aga

Resources

Aligned: Customer Collaboration Platform

Mutual Action Plans with Aligned

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Closing Sales Pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

You know you need to personalize your outreach, but you keep getting bogged down in trying to write the perfect e-mail or phone script. If you’re trying to write quick, to-the-point e-mails that actually get opened, you’re in luck. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly opens up a great collaborative conversation with Michelle Craig and Tom Slocum. Between the three of them, they bring a variety of opinions and offer specific tools to add to your arsenal for 2023.

Your Subject Line

  • Short subjects or posing as though you’re sending an internal e-mail are reaching a point of saturation.
  • Describe what’s in the e-mail in as few words as possible. Avoid gimmicks like emojis, using the person’s name, etc.

The Body of the E-mail

  • The first line is sometimes more important than the subject line! People are reading on mobile and even smart watches! Garner interest without seeming like spam.
  • Outline the problem and tie it back to your solution, but keep it short and sweet. This isn’t school - there’s no need to reach a minimum word count.
  • If your organization demands that you follow a particular model, test new ideas on your own time and bring your findings to your leaders to see if you can change things up.

Your CTA

  • Try a soft CTA - instead of demanding a meeting, try something like “Would you like to learn more?”
  • Many buyers can’t afford to spend 30 minutes in a meeting. Focus on getting them to reply to you without putting pressure on them.

“Newer sellers get caught up in best practices, templates, frameworks, ‘this-is-the-way’, and forget that it’s a human on the other end of the e-mail, cold call, or LinkedIn message. Sure, different personas might have preferred communication styles, but each person is going to have different preferences.” – Michelle Craig

Resources

Michelle Craig on LinkedIn

Tom Slocum on LinkedIn

Uniphore.com Conversational AI & Automation

TheSDLab.com Outbound Strategy that accelerates your growth 

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

2.            These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

3.            We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:building sales pipeline -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s never been more important to make the most of your outbound leads. Hopefully you already have a clear ICP and you personalize your outreach, but how do you turn your hard work into measurable results? In this episode, your host Donald Kelly and guest Ari Brinson get into a great conversation about how Brinson’s team was able to boost meeting numbers through effective personalization.

  Boosting Conversion Rates for Outbound Leads

  • Work on creating accurate customer personas to make sure you’re connecting with the right people – otherwise BDRs are wasting time and energy.
  • The sales landscape is changing: potential buyers are less likely to jump into buying and less willing to open up content that doesn’t seem tailored to them.

  Show Me You Know Me (Sam McKenna method)

  • Make sure your value proposition is scaleable to the prospect you’re connecting with.
  • The first three sentences of your e-mail and your CTA at the end are the most important. Personalize them to your prospect in a way that makes them want to meet with you.
  • Frame the urgency for the buyer - what is the cost of inaction? Don’t personalize just for the sake of personalizing – that WON’T work.

  Tips for Adding Personalization that Works

  • Tailor your message to the leader or buyer, not just the organization. 
  • If you can’t find information about the business, see if you can find their sales leaders on LinkedIn to see what they’ve been posting.
  • Make connections on LinkedIn to get your foot in the door, NOT to pitch! If you pitch right off the bat, you come off as “salesy”.

  “Now, more than ever, the economic environment that we’re in is exposing that a lot of times [sales] is a long-term play, not a short-term play. And with quality in and outbound [leads], I think those complement each other rather than are inverses of each other.” – Ari Brinson

Resources

Ari Brinson on LinkedIn

  Sponsorship Offers 

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

It’s time to start seeking the wisdom of our industry leaders to build pipeline. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly talks with Radhika Shukla about her years of experience bringing teams to success in sales. Her approach is equal parts methodical, data-driven, and human-centric. Listen in as she shares the proven methods she uses with her team to find new leads and convert them into happy repeat customers.

 Start the Planning Process Early

  • Identify “big bets” that you need to win. These are new leads that are great fits for your business that you are going to prioritize.
  • Collaborate with different people in your organization who operate at all stages of the customer satisfaction process.

 7-Step Method for Lead Qualifying

  1. Start with your ICP. Create a customer profile and become familiar with the industry and common pain points.
  2. Ask the right questions. Think of asking effective questions and staying curious rather than jumping straight to solutions.
  3. Qualification criteria. Don’t be misled by following the wrong criteria – know what your criteria are from an early stage. 
  4. Two-way qualification. From the early stages all the way through the end, give your customers a way to evaluate whether your company is bringing them value.
  5. Progress through the sales cycle. Take a structured approach to help you keep track of where you are at with your clients.
  6. Data analysis. Become a data-driven seller. The more reports you can get your hands on, the better you can assess your pipeline.
  7. Rigorous, regular pipeline review. Revise your plan every 2-3 months. Things change and you may learn new things.

 Prospecting to Triple Your Pipeline

  • Invest in targeted research and networking to identify prospects.
  • Network shamelessly. Don’t be afraid to seek referrals from your regular clients.
  • Engage in multi-channel prospecting. Don’t stick to one type of prospecting: e-mails, social media, and phone calls will all reach different people. 
  • Follow up with your customers. Keep a regular cadence of connection with customers.

 “You have to focus on understanding your target market, your industry trends, the complete scenario. It’s very important to understand your customer’s business, but also the customer’s customer – how they go to market and how they sell their products and services to their customers. That deep understanding, often people miss.” – Radhika Shukla

 Resources

Radhika Shukla on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

2.            These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

3.            We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Salespeople and leaders alike have access to great tech to simplify and streamline their processes. Tech, however, isn’t everything – if a seller isn’t spending much time selling, they’re still not going to hit quotas. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly talks with Tiffani Bova about shaping the employee experience to drive success.

The Connection Between Employees and Growth

  • Employees drive revenue. 

  • Even though powerful tech is out there to help you sell, a salesperson only spends 28% of their time selling and 54% of salespeople miss quotas.

  • If sales reps don’t have the right tools and spend all their time doing administrative work, they’re not providing an excellent customer experience.

  • Salespeople aren’t in control of the pitfalls in their tech, but they can help sales leaders understand what isn’t working.

The Employee Journey

  • A lot of energy is often put into improving the buyer’s journey. But the salesperson’s journey needs to match.

  • The more back-end work the employee has to do per each step of the buyer’s journey, the lower their job satisfaction will be.

  • Identify the steps in the seller’s process, and ask if things can be automated, streamlined, or eliminated.

Getting Promoted vs. Showing Leadership

  • The higher up you get promoted, the more long-term you should be setting your sights. The C-suite should not be focusing on the day-to-day.

  • Great sellers get promoted, but selling and managing are two different skills.

  • Engage with employees about what their struggles and needs are. Try to offer solutions, and if you can’t, at least you’re aware of the situation.

“We do not have a technology problem. We have a people and process problem.” – Tiffani Bova

Resources

The Experience Mindset by Tiffani Bova on Amazon

https://www.tiffanibova.com/experiencemindset/

Tiffani Bova on LinkedIn

@tiffanibova on Instagram

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Whether you’re tired of receiving the same “pitches” all over LinkedIn or you’re a self-professed introvert like our guest Ben Lai, you know there’s a way to use LinkedIn to sell without selling out. Today on the Sales Evangelist podcast, Ben and host Donald Kelly tackle bringing humanity back to social media.

Connection Requests: Being Other-Centric

  • Your messaging should communicate that you care more about the person than the sale.
  • Be courteous and authentic. Don’t use the same lines as everyone else – show others who you are.
  • Identify a commonality that builds trust. People will then check out your profile, so if your message and profile are incongruent, you’ll lose that trust.
  • If you have a limited market, personalize each connection request or meeting request, depending on what makes sense for you.

Meeting Requests: Personal AND Commercial

  • Before you reach out, give them a little bit of breathing room (about 1 week) after getting your connection request gets accepted.
  • Find a conversational thing to ask them about, or find something of value to give to the person without them having to do business with you.
  • Letting the meeting come about naturally makes your target more likely to respond.

Follow Up:

  • People are busy and don’t always respond right away.
  • Some people you reach out to will want to reward your perseverance. If you don’t follow up, you seem like you don’t care.

“If you’re out there to genuinely help people, you’re going to come across that way in the wording and in all of your mannerisms, whereas someone who is annoyingly persistent is predominantly self-centric. They’re only thinking about closing the sale.” – Ben Lai

Resources

SalesEthos.au - individual or team sales coaching

Sponsorship Offers

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.
  2. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.
  3. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Social selling can be successful IF you know where to start. Many sellers waste time chasing celebrity status thinking that’s the only way to generate leads, not knowing there are options that can consistently get them to their sales targets. In today’s episode of the Sales Evangelist podcast, Donald Kelly talks with Tony Restell, the founder of Social-Hire, one of the leading social media marketing agencies in the UK. They discuss how to reach out to your target audience and convert that audience into opportunities.

Two Roads to Success for B2B Social Sellers

  1. You become a celebrity in your field and receive inquiries based on your name/presence. For every “celebrity,” there are a lot of people who are trying to do that and failing.
  2. You grow your account by putting in consistent work and focusing your attention on a target market. This is the less risky way to generate leads.

Writing Effective Connection Requests

  • Think about how you would open up a conversation with someone at a trade show or a conference. Don’t say anything you wouldn’t say in person.
  • Drop a good question in the first conversation to get communication going.
  • You have a 300-character limit. Use it to demonstrate your value as a connection, not to sell.

How to Convert Your Audience into Opportunities

  • Find ways to build trust and reach out without pitching. People on LinkedIn get pitched to all the time – you’ll be ignored.
  • Restell’s strategy is doing short (5-10 minute) video calls with business owners on LinkedIn. They can use these short videos as content for themselves.
  • Find ways to let your opportunities approach you. Asking for short interviews to gain information invites businesses to look into who you are and what you typically offer.

“What we like to focus on is much more predictable and scalable [than attempting to be a LinkedIn celebrity], and it comes down to the consistency of effort. I guess that comes from my door-to-door sales background many years ago, where it was drilled into us that it’s all about the numbers and it’s all about improving your conversion rates between the numbers. If you do enough of the right things and you improve over time, you’re going to get a known outcome from that. And LinkedIn is no different for sales professionals.” – Tony Restell

Resources

Social-Hire.com – book a consultation call!

Tony Restell on LinkedIn

Sponsorship Offers

This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

When faced with new challenges, your ability to adapt will determine whether you succeed. In the past 12-18 months, the market has undergone a massive shift. In today’s episode, you’re going to get the facts you need to respond. Your host Donald Kelly sits down with Kate Ahlering (CRO at Calendly) to talk about how automation can save you time and energy so you can apply your focus to the moments that matter.

Challenges In the Current Market

  • The game has changed from placing importance on “growth at all costs” (2020–2021) to “path to profitability” (2022-present). 

  • There is a lot more scrutiny from buyers on all types of investment. The path to profitability needs to be clear at the outset.

  • The silver lining: sales organizations get to hone their craft, become more focused, and improve beyond what they’ve been able to offer in the past.

Speed of Sales Cycle

  • When balancing personalization with automation, some steps in the process require a more personalized approach than others. Find the parts you can automate.

  • If a customer is already on your website, they’re ready to talk to you at that moment – most don’t want to send a lot of e-mails back and forth.

  • Calendly Routing allows customers to easily book meetings with you from your website, cutting down the amount of time they spend in your pipeline.

Getting the Right Meetings Booked

  • Team selling is becoming increasingly common. Streamlining the booking process for collaborative meetings helps your customer get scheduled painlessly.

  • Standardizing the process to whatever extent you can helps give your customers a consistent experience, and makes your process more scalable.

Expansion Using Automation

  • There’s nothing wrong with doubling down on your base, but must also demonstrate your value to that base or offer more value.

  • Use analytic suites to become more educated on what works and improve conversion based on data.

  • HackerOne, a global cybersecurity company, implemented Calendly and scheduled 114% more meetings while streamlining their process by 600 hours.

“If you haven’t already, take a look at your customer life cycle map. What are the points in time that you really want to engage your customer? What are those high value conversations? What are those inflection points that are so critical? And [ensure] that you have the right amount and the right blend of personalization and automation to ensure that those moments happen.” – Kate Ahlering

Resources

https://calendly.com/ – Get started with a FREE trial

Connect with Kate Ahlering on LinkedIn

The Brevet Group: 21 Mind-blowing Sales Stats - check out this website for helpful stats Ahlering refers to

How CI Assante Wealth Management Achieved 323% ROI with Calendly - Case Study

HackerOne Realizes 169% ROI by Powering Customer Success with Calendly - Case Study

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.

  1. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.

  2. We call this Deep Sales. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

 

Direct download: TSE_1672.mp3
Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

By now, someone has already told you that sales is about building relationships. If you’ve ever been lured into the trap of trying to be your prospect’s best friend only to find out they weren’t interested, you’re not alone. As you’ll hear in this episode, JC Pollard isn’t afraid to ask tough questions, and that’s how he became a top seller at Gong, hitting 190% of his quota in his first year. Listen in as he and Donald Kelly discuss “soft closing” to get the facts about where your deals are at.

Setting Expectations and Being Proactive

  • As a rep, you are (or should be) experienced with your sales process. Take a leadership role in outlining the next steps in the process for your buyer.

  • Give the buyer options so they know you can either close the deal quickly or take more time to evaluate, depending on what they want.

  • Position the outcomes on every call and keep inviting your buyer to tell YOU where they stand.

Soft Closing

  • Many reps don’t know how certain their deals are. Instead of keeping yourself in the dark, set your buyers up with an opportunity to close at every step of the process. 

  • If they say yes, this saves you a lot of time and effort. But if they say no, you have an opportunity to do discovery.

Wrapping Deals Before the Trial Ends

  • Never launch a trial or pilot without knowing what your customer’s success criteria are. 

  • If you believe your product has checked all the boxes before the pilot is done, check in with them and see if they’re ready to buy yet. If they say no, don’t be afraid to ask, “Why not?”

“The best salespeople are ones that are friendly, liked, create rapport, and can really drop the hammer when they need to... That’s what I try to be. I get close with my prospects. I truly care about making friends with them – I keep in touch with people I sold Gong to a year ago. But when they say something throughout the cycle where I’m like, ‘You’re not thinking about that the right way,’ I’m not afraid to also call that out and be like, ‘Hey, can I challenge you on that?’ If you can marry the two, I think that’s where you start to see some success.” – JC Pollard

Resources

Gong website

Reach out to JC Pollard on LinkedIn

JC’s post calling out Donald Kelly on LinkedIn!

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

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Category:Better Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Why do all presentations look and feel the same? Why does it feel like you have to leave your true self at the door and switch into ‘pitch mode’? Why isn’t there more storytelling? These are the big questions our guest Ravi Rajani sought to answer, and he packed this episode with so much of what he has learned. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly and Ravi Rajani get pumped about the art of telling exciting stories in a sales environment – and the energy is contagious!

Understanding “STORY” in a Sales Context

  • S: Simplify story-selling: A simple, but powerful story can get attention, tug at emotions, and build trust.
  • T: Tactically create your story bank: Include the right kinds of stories in your arsenal.
  • O: Obtain delivery mastery: It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.
  • R: Ramp up your MVP story: Practice and fine-tune your story in low-stakes environments.
  • Y: Yield long-term success: Over time, build up more stories to become second nature and conversational.

Write Great Sales Stories With The ACORNS Checklist

  • A: Attention-grabbing: Be unpredictable to interrupt your buyer’s pattern of thinking.
  • C: Contain a relatable person: A listener should be able to see themselves as your main character.
  • O: Organically unfold: Keep story arcs simple and easy to follow.
  • R: Reveal a villain: Stories with a “villain” have more tension, which gets your listener’s attention.
  • N: Nurture trust: The story should be a larger part of building a business relationship over time.
  • S: Should add business value: Stories should lead right into your hook, prospect impact, and CTA (call to action). 

Using Stories to Incite Emotion

  • Bring someone into the room. Rather than narrating, “This happened, then that happened…” Include dialogue.
  • Rajani uses highly descriptive, sensory-focused language to pull listeners in.

“What is a story? Let’s take it back to my guy Ralph Emerson. He once said, ‘The creation of a thousand forests is in one acorn.’ I actually believe that the creation of a thousand relationships is in one story.” – Ravi Rajani

Resources

DM Ravi Rajani on LinkedIn with the word “Donald” so he knows you heard about him here!

https://www.theravirajani.com/yourelevatorstory - FREE script for your Elevator Story

Sponsorship Offers

This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.
  2. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.
  3. We call this Deep Sale. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

Direct download: TSE_1670.mp3
Category:Better Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Take a moment to walk in your prospect’s shoes. Imagine you’re interested in a product and you reached out for more information, only to wait weeks to hear back. Chances are you went looking elsewhere for a more responsive seller – and if you want to BECOME that second seller, listen in. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly and Aleks Gollu, founder and CEO at 11Sight, discuss the undeniable effectiveness of video calls and rapid response time.

What Causes Friction?

  • AI chat bots, long survey-style forms, and delayed response time are all points of friction that drag out and endanger deals.
  • There is no reason why responses can’t be instantaneous – if your turnaround isn’t immediate, you could very easily lose your prospects.

Two Ways to Talk On the Customer’s Terms

  • Give your customer the option to schedule the meeting.
  • Give them an option to get on an instant video call. Over 60% preferred an instant call!
  • These options work best for high-velocity sales (conversion in 30-60 days).

How Can Reaching Out in Real Time Scale Globally?

  • Record a video that explains that you’re not available at that time and offers them an option to schedule a call.
  • Use an outsourced agency that follows a sales script for their first call to move things forward.

“A lead is 10 times more valuable in those first five minutes than anytime thereafter. When the phone rings, answer.” – Aleks Gollu

Resources

https://www.11sight.com/ - Call through the website, and let them know you heard about them on The Sales Evangelist Podcast. You’ll be transferred directly to Aleks!

Sponsorship Offers

1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1669.mp3
Category:Better Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

New reps and veteran sellers alike are looking for the missing piece in their sales game – look no further. In this electrifying interview, your host Donald Kelly speaks with Amanda Holmes, CEO of Chet Holmes International, about how her finger-on-the-pulse approach connects with the foundational elements of her father’s work (The Ultimate Sales Machine) to bring us into the future of selling.

 What is a Dream 100?

  • There is always a smaller number of better buyers than there are buyers. Selling to your better buyers is smarter and cheaper than selling to anyone else.
  • When he was a seller, Chet Holmes spent his energy focusing on his ideal clients rather than selling to 20,000 prospects.
  • “In your face, in your space, in your place.” Chet Holmes used a lot of marketing tactics WITHOUT spamming. Aim to be interested instead of interesting!

 Identify YOUR Dream 100

  • Start by going through your contacts and identifying the people who could be in your Dream 100 – without social media.
  • Don’t get overwhelmed – start with a Dream 5 or Dream 10! Place your focus there, and build on it.

 3 Dream 100 DON’Ts

  1. It doesn’t need to be “100”. The most important thing to do is find your better buyers – the customers who are really right for you.
  2. It doesn’t need to be people outside of your sphere. After looking through your contacts, check your social media, your CRM (customer relationship management), and other places in your SOI (sphere of influence).
  3. Bigger isn’t always better. Even if big accounts bring in a lot of money, they may not be profitable, and they may not need you. You may not like working with them, which makes them NOT a dream client!

“My father was a fifth-degree blackbelt. He realized that there are only so many ways that you kick or you punch, and it’s just a matter of practicing these things over, and over, and over again. He’s famous for the saying, ‘Mastery isn’t about doing 4,000 different things, it’s about doing 12 things 4,000 times.” – Amanda Holmes

Resources

http://ultimatesalesmachine.com (Chapter 4 of the book is free!)

Reach out to Amanda directly @amanditaholmes on Instagram

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data.

  1. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time
    insights.
  2. These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals.
  3. We call this Deep Sale. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

 2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1668.mp3
Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

If you’re still trying to build pipeline by loading up your “spam cannon,” you’re living in the past. In today’s episode, your host Donald Kelly opens up a conversation with Drew Sechrist, the CEO and co-founder of Connect the Dots (a FREE program that helps you leverage your connections – see the Resources below for a tip to skip the waiting list). Sechrist shares the history of how he got his start as a seller at Salesforce, becoming a top seller, and learning the skills that helped him revolutionize his strategy. 

How Relationships Helped a Young Rep Become the Top Seller

  • When Sechrist first started selling, he didn’t have a network to tap into. As he started selling to bigger more complex companies, having connections helped him get his foot in the door.
  • The amount of people selling creates a lot of noise in the market, leaving buyers unsure of who to trust. Personal relationships built Salesforce from the beginning.
  • At the time, there was no way to see how to leverage relationships with the click of a button, but now there are options like Connect the Dots, which shows reps who the buyers are and how to connect with them through the network they have.

Taking Sales Beyond LinkedIn

  • 50-90% of your LinkedIn contacts are people you may not know well, so even if you want to make connections this way, you’re going to face the same lack of trust you’re trying to avoid.
  • CTD offers assistance in tracking relationship strength: whether you have a weak, familiar, or strong relationship with your contact.
  • CTD also shows you a consolidated record of each of your contacts so you can evaluate them at a glance.

The Problem With Cold E-mails

  • Cold e-mailing is out for 2023 – it could even hurt your brand.
  • Buyers are inundated with cold e-mails that target and pitch but don’t offer value. Your open rate might be high, but your response rate might not!

“Just think about it: somebody comes up to you on the street that you don’t know and they’re proposing something to you, it’s like ‘Whoa, whoa, I don’t know you. I’ve got places to go.’ But if your friend comes up to you on the street and says, ‘Hey Donald, I think I’ve got something for you,’ you’re going to give that person a minute to hear them out… Your brand suffers a little bit if you make a request of somebody’s time and it’s not considered to be valuable.” – Drew Sechrist

Resources

E-mail drew@ctd.ai and let him know you heard about CTD on The Sales Evangelist Podcast, and you will be bumped to the top of the waiting list for FREE access to this program!

Connect the Dots

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1667.mp3
Category:Social Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Creating and sharing content is the new frontier, but it can feel like a chore if you’re not sure how or why to use it. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly sits down with Zach Basner, digital sales and marketing coach extraordinaire, to show you how effective this type of content can be when used correctly. Listen in as they shed some light on the effectiveness of these strategies and how they can be used to up your game as a seller.

The 80% Video

  • What questions do your prospects always (or almost always) ask in your first conversation? This video should address those questions.
  • This informs your prospects and can also disqualify leads without wasting your time or theirs.

The Bio Video

  • This is an employee bio video that allows a prospect to see, hear, and know the rep they’ll be in contact with.
  • This isn’t the rep’s life story! Just include anything useful for your prospect to know so they have the opportunity to build some trust in you before they reach out.
  • Think of it as a scalable approach to the time and energy that goes into building relationships with customers.

Buyer’s Prep Guide

  • This is for buyers who understand their problem and know what the solution is; they are ready to buy, but they’re deciding who to buy from.
  • A buyer’s prep guide should give context as to the value of the product itself, not a biased view of why your product is the best.
  • Walking buyers through how to evaluate your product will help eliminate objections before they come up in a call.

“The best time to eliminate an objection is before it has to come up. Content like this will help us eliminate those long before they need to be brought up. If we’re not hearing the same objections that we used to, we know we’re doing this right.” – Zach Basner

Resources

IMPACT

 Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Are you struggling to close deals? Cold outreach wastes the buyer and seller's time at every stage, especially when sellers are using shallow and outdated data. Your organization can overcome these challenges with technology that translates comprehensive, high-quality buyer data into real-time insights.          These deeper insights empower sales reps and teams to adopt the habits of top performers, which leads to better outcomes - like more pipelines, higher win rates, and larger deals. We call this Deep Sale. And we’ve built the first deep sales platform with the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator.

Try LinkedIn Sales Navigator and get a sixty-day free trial at linkedin.com/tse.

2. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Better Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

We’re all trying to find creative ways to build pipeline, but sometimes it feels like we’ve exhausted every possible avenue. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly encourages you to look for leads in places you might have missed. Donald and his team use all of these methods and have done the hard work of testing them for their effectiveness. Give them a shot!

5 Ways to Build Pipeline this Quarter

  1. Current Customers: Selling to your current customers is the simplest, cheapest way to build pipeline because they already understand and believe in your product. Stay connected with them and build strong relationships so you can keep them up to date on your new offerings.

  2. Lost Deals: Deals fall through for many reasons, so it’s a good idea to check in with leaders to see if they know what went wrong. There may be opportunities to rectify some of the issues that occurred before.

  3. Existing Connections on LinkedIn: Your connections on LinkedIn, like your current customers, know of you and probably have some trust in you. You don’t necessarily need to pitch to them, just talk to them and see if what you’re offering can help them in any way.

  4. Referrals: Many of our customers are willing to give referrals, but we don’t always ask for them. Rather than ask your customers “who they know who could benefit from your services,” go to their LinkedIn profiles and see for yourself. Then reach out to your customer about those folks specifically.

  5. Past Leads: Your past leads were interested in your product at one point but were disqualified for one reason or another. Their situation or your offerings may have changed, so it’s a good idea to reconnect and see if now is a better time for them to move forward with your product.

“Some of these people may be friends from college, some of these people may be past customers, some of these people could just be folks in your network that you’ve connected to, but for one reason or another, you haven’t quite navigated the path where you ask them for an opportunity. It is a loss if you’re not doing that.” – Donald Kelly

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Better Selling -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to work every day for the paycheck. But if you go one step further, ask yourself, what is that paycheck for? What do you REALLY care about? In this episode, your host Donald Kelly and guest Will Yarbrough break down a word that all sales leaders should be thinking about constantly – “motivation.” Listen in to hear how you can improve yourself or your team by tapping into those unique drivers that go beyond the dollar sign.

 Why Should We Go Beyond Being Money Driven?

  • People want to spend their paychecks on the things that matter to them. There’s nothing wrong with making money, but it’s just a means to an end.
  • Whether you’re a sales leader or an individual contributor, if you want to get better, you have to see how that fits into the big picture of your goals in life. Each decision you make should support those goals.
  • Focusing on things other than money will reach sellers who aren’t that motivated by the money itself. This drives performance up and sets you apart from a hiring perspective.

 How Can Leaders Help?

  • Spend a lot of time with your team members. Make time for one-on-ones where you can ask questions and understand the things that motivate them. Each person is unique, and their motivations can be complex.
  • Using the REKS framework, help team members identify how to proceed toward their goals.
  • Be the coach in their corner, providing both encouragement and accountability. All the greats have coaches who help them practice and improve.
  • Helping every team member achieve their goals is important – when one person cashes in on the improvements they’ve made, they’ll share their successes with the rest of the team, and that increases buy-in from their peers dramatically.

 “I may want to make a six-figure salary, but at the end of the day, it may just be checking a box, where other things are much more important to me. Words of affirmation, getting opportunities to take on more responsibility, having trust and flexibility in the way that I go about my job – these are all things that I think can help inherently motivate folks, but you have to start with the fact that Donald and Will are going to respond to different tactics differently, and money is just one component of motivation.” – Will Yarbrough

 Resources

Will Yarbrough on LinkedIn

Fleetio.com

 Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.


3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 11:06am EDT

You can’t control the changes that are currently happening with the economy, or the changes that are to come. What matters is how you respond in each moment. If you’re not sure how to approach selling in the current economy, fear not – our guest today brings the knowledge and experience that has helped him find great success in his business. Alex Levin is the Co-Founder and CEO of Regal.io, and he’s here today to sit down with your host Donald Kelly. Together, they share the wisdom that can get you through a tough period in the market and even help you see it as an opportunity for growth.

 4 Tips for Success During Challenging Economic Times

  1. Invest in your craft. If you have enjoyed the luxury of a fairly passive sales experience during the last couple of years, now is the time to shift gears. Get better educated on how you can take a more active role in selling, rather than taking orders and filling them.
  2. Learn to create urgency. People get used to the way things are, and during a time when they’re cutting costs, they aren’t actively searching for new places to invest their money. It’s your job to help them see how much better things could be if they use your product or service.
  3. Go to conferences. During the height of COVID, doing everything online made a lot of sense. Now, buyers are starting to get out to conferences again. These are great places to network with peers and make personal connections with new and existing prospects.
  4. Do things that don’t scale. Now is the time to show your clients how much they matter to you. If you have the resources, find ways to meet with them in person or be physically present if there are events where you can support them. Become a respected part of their team rather than just a voice on the other end of a phone line.

 Advice For New (or Experienced!) Sellers Trying to Build Pipeline

  • Selling is a journey. Don’t put a ton of pressure on yourself to be perfect or know everything right from the get-go. The best sellers in the world had to start somewhere, too.
  • Keep a learning mindset. When you have opportunities to get better educated about your product or sales, take them!
  • Have real conversations with your prospects. Discovery calls are not a venue for you to grill your buyer or spew lists of facts about your product. Find out what they need and help them decide whether your product is right for them.
  • Identify your champion. When you are reaching out to a company, locate who will actually be helped the most by your product, and get to know them. Honestly take an interest in their goals and see if your product helps them achieve those goals.
  • Get in an SMS or Slack conversation with your prospect. Start a running dialogue and build trust.
  • Be an honest broker. Build trust with your prospects by accurately representing what your product can do and actively listening to their pains and needs. “Sales is not a one-turn game” – you never know how things will shake out in the future.

“Don’t ghost people. Don’t treat them with disrespect. Don’t do things that you wouldn’t want on the cover of the New York Times.” – Alex Levin

Resources

E-mail Alex: hello@regal.io

 Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1663.mp3
Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode, your host Donald Kelly sits down with Chris Duprey, Chief Strategy Officer at IMPACT (impactplus.com). Duprey has an engaging, no-nonsense approach to sales training, and wants to help you and your team master the basics so that you can go from being decent at sales to being truly great. Check out the list below and see what’s holding your team back, then listen in as Donald and Chris delve into each one, point by point!

 The 5 Habits of A Great Sales Team

  1. Have a team mentality. Top performers will burn out if they’re the only ones doing all the work. Go beyond sharing wins – share losses too. Even top sellers should be willing to talk to the team about what’s not working and why. 
  2. The best teams roleplay… a LOT. If you want to improve, practice! Work with others to get better. You’re not going to win unless you do the reps. Duprey recommends doing it weekly!
  3. The best teams watch their sales calls. Record your calls so that you can go back and review them later. Just like a sports team watching their old plays, watch the calls you make and watch calls other people make! Sales leaders: watch a lot of sales calls your team makes.
  4. Gain peer status with your buyer. Nobody wants to be sold to – people will accept guidance and assistance from someone who knows their stuff. Ask great questions, give realistic advice and don’t be needy!
  5. You proactively work on communication. Obsess over how you communicate. If something goes wrong, figure out what you missed. Also, learn how to deliver your message and have an engaging presence.

“If you just do the basics, that’s what makes the best the best… I was a paratrooper and I had friends that were in the special forces. Everyone thinks we all did special things – we all just did the basics A LOT and got really good at them.” – Chris Duprey

Resources

Chris Duprey on LinkedIn

IMPACT: Sales & Marketing Training

Sponsorship Offers

  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.

2.            This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com

 

3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1662.mp3
Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

 Having the right mindset is crucial to being a successful salesperson. So why do we often get locked up in a mindset of fear, and how can we change that? In this episode, your host Donald Kelly and Dr. Jean Oursler (Ph.D. in Business Psychology from the Chicago School) are here to teach us about our “Caveman Brain” so that we can harness the way we are wired and make it work to our advantage. 

What is Your Caveman Brain?

  • The amygdala is a part of the brain that controls our fear responses to our environment. Dr. Oursler calls this the “caveman brain”
  • Our “caveman brain” exists to protect us from getting hurt or dying, so we can’t get rid of it or turn it off!
  •  We don’t have to run away from predators or protect our young from danger anymore, so nowadays, we fear things like rejection, losing our reputation, or being a pushy salesperson.

 How Do We Work WITH the Caveman Brain?

  • The amygdala only knows what it sees and hears. Pay attention to the media and information you consume!
  • Identify your personal fears. Know what is holding you back and why.
  • Use positive self-talk to give the caveman brain information to overcome your fears. Think of these as affirmations or talking yourself up.

"Almost everything that’s happening in your life that isn’t happening the way you want it to comes down to your caveman brain. When you realize that and you start to fix that, everything else falls back into place.” – Dr. Jean Oursler

Resources

https://cavemanbrain.com/

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Today’s guest brings his top-tier track record to the show to help you and your team convert your prospects into customers using his proven, customer-first approach. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly sits down with David Bennion, the VP Sales at Apollo.io, which serves over 160,000 companies and more than one million users worldwide. Bennion shares his clear-eyed, precise understanding of his team’s success and the steps it takes to get there.

 As a Seller, Learn to:

  • Identify your customer’s issue, even if they haven’t identified it themselves
  • Quantify that problem - how impactful will solving the problem be?
  • Ask the right questions so you can truly understand where your prospect is coming from. When they trust you enough to describe their company’s pains (or even their personal ones), show empathy!
  • Know whether your product can actually solve their problem - and learn to graciously walk away if it can’t

 Common Mistakes in Selling (And How to Avoid Them)

  • DON’T just drive your company’s agenda. Instead, think about what you can offer to the customer.
  • DON’T limit your pitch to just data points. Instead, offer some real-life examples of your current customers’ success with your product
  • DON’T add to your prospect’s list of problems they have to deal with. Instead, show them how seamlessly your solution can be implemented

“I think, sometimes in outbound [sales], there’s a feeling like, ‘All I’m doing is creating a problem for somebody,’ when really, you have the opportunity to create a quick win for somebody and make them a hero inside their business.” - David Bennion

Resources

http://apollo.io

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This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Writing intriguing, trustworthy e-mail content in today’s market can feel like a losing game. How do you stand out from the crowd without resorting to gimmicks (which doesn’t work anyway)? Enter your host Donald Kelly and our guest James Boreham with five tips on creating e-mails that create unforgettable first impressions your clients will still be talking about years later (true story!).

 Current Challenges In Email Prospecting

  • People are flooded with information. When you reach out to someone, you’re just one out of so many notifications they’re going to see that day
  • Buyers are burned out when it comes to e-mail. E-mail prospecting is up 30% since the beginning of the pandemic, but reply rates are down 50%

Do These 5 Things to Boost Your E-mail Open Rates

1. Use short, intriguing subject lines. Most e-mails are viewed on mobile devices. On a smaller screen, only a small amount of text makes it to your prospect’s eyes before they decide whether it gets opened or goes to the trash.

  • TRY THIS: Send the e-mail to yourself before it goes out. Does it look like marketing fluff? Or does it look important?

2. See the prospect as your equal. Even though you might be reaching out to prospects who have a lot of experience in their field, you are the expert in YOUR field (which is your product). Don’t condescend, but don’t beg either. Know the worth of your information and your product to become a trusted advisor who commands respect.

 

3. Do your homework. Personalize your content to show that you’ve taken the time to get to know their business and their needs. Impress your customer with your hustle and commitment (without sacrificing the natural flow of the e-mail).

  • TRY THIS: Check out the careers page on the company’s website. Get a sense of what roles and responsibilities exist so you can understand your prospect’s needs.

4. Stay actionable and objective. Don’t be too “sales-y”. Talk in terms of facts and keep things clear. Don’t add so much personality that your prospect loses the plot.

 

5. Follow up with one-liners. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel - one-liners work! Use them to connect with people and encourage their responses.

“Each of these [5 tips to boost e-mail open rates] is to make it easy for the customer to buy and to put us in a position of power in those interactions and conversations so we are a trusted advisor. I think that is transformative to the whole sales process.” – James Boreham

Resources

Juro Contract Management (website)

James Boreham on LinkedIn

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Your social media presence can build your credibility, community, and pipeline… or break it. Most people don’t create content on LinkedIn, so they miss out on all of the opportunities that can come along with having a sizeable following on the platform. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly sits down with Richard Smith,  the VP of Sales for Allego. Listen in to hear how Smith grew his social media audience to the point where his content now generates conversation, interest, and qualified inbound leads.

Why DON’T People Post on LinkedIn?

  • People don’t think they have anything interesting or novel to contribute

  • People are happy to read and don’t feel like it’s necessary to make the extra effort to post

  • “Head trash” – people don’t want to embarrass themselves if no one interacts, or say the wrong thing and end up in trouble professionally

How to Do LinkedIn Posts the Right Way

  • Keep your day job. Smith uses LinkedIn to generate leads for his sales job, but it took years to build his audience. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

  • Build a community, not an echo chamber. Discussion is healthy – while you don’t want to be inflammatory just for the sake of getting attention, don’t try to pander to your audience either.

  • Your reputation on social media will follow you everywhere, so be educated, honest, and authentic.

“The key is to almost “anti-sell,” and this is quite strange for some people to hear. You have to be on there, not wanting to sell your product – you have to be on there building an audience… And that is the key starting point.” – Richard Smith

TSE episode 578: How to Use Technology to Better Coach Salespeople with Richard Smith

Allego: Sales Training and Sales Enablement Platform Website

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Spring is a time for change and renewal, which means it’s time to reevaluate the sales strategies you or your company have always used. In sales, it’s crucial to set yourself apart from the competition, and we want to show you how to do just that using efficient methods that WORK. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly takes you through the Top 3 Prospecting Strategies he and his company are utilizing in 2023. 

 

Why Do We Need New Strategies?

  • Since the beginning of the pandemic, e-mail outreach is up 50%, but reply rates have decreased by 30%
  • Writing a great subject line and e-mail content does no good if the person on the other end doesn’t feel motivated to reply

 

3 Strategies to Adopt in 2023

  1. Create previous engagement. Before you reach out to a potential buyer, create a connection with them. Don’t just start with a cold e-mail!
  2. Use social media to gauge interest. If you work for a bigger firm, look at who follows your product on LinkedIn. That list will have prospects on it who are already interested, and may just need more information (and that’s where you come in!)
  3. Use tools like LinkedIn Sales Navigator. In the episode, Donald runs you through how to use the Spotlight feature to look at activity levels on LinkedIn so you can decide whether to reach out via LinkedIn (or some other way).

 

“Everybody knows the play that we’re running. They know these strategies. So what are we going to do? How are we going to be different?” - Donald Kelly

 

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

 

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Category:Prospecting -- posted at: 10:47am EDT

Is putting your customer first tanking your value? You’ve heard this phrase before: “The customer is always right.” No one is going to tell you to ignore your customer’s wishes completely. But sacrificing your needs (and the needs of your business) to make your quota is a dangerous game that can leave you feeling like you lost, even when you make a sale. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly and guest Mark Raffan are here to remind us, point-blank, that a successful salesperson needs to set expectations and retain value in every negotiation.

 

There Is No “Win-Win”

  • Move away from a “win-win” mindset. If you put too much effort into trying to get your customer to win, you run the risk of letting them win at your expense. Instead, hope for outcomes that you can both agree to
  • Keep your goals in mind when selling. Don’t get so swept up in trying to meet your customer’s needs that you totally forget about your own (or your company’s).
  • Take on deals that are profitable. Even when you’re trying to make quota, the more concessions you make, the more value you lose

 

3 Layers of Concessions

  1. Conditional Giving. If a potential buyer asks you to make a concession, ask them to make a concession as well. 
  2. “Portional” Giving. If a salesperson is asked to make a concession, only make a portion of it, don’t give the full concession.
  3. Scarcity. When a potential buyer asks for a concession, respond by letting them know it will be difficult to do, don’t immediately accept it.

 

“I really don’t believe there is such a thing as a win-win negotiation. I think it’s a really dangerous mindset to put yourself in, especially when the market changes like this.” – Mark Raffan

 

Resources

Negotiations Ninja

Negotiations Ninja Podcast

Mark Raffan LinkedIn

 

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

 

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Category:Time Management -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Communication is key. You’ve heard this phrase before, but how does it apply to sales? Hopefully, at this point, you know from experience that selling is about more than just being an outgoing person with a great smile. If you want to be great at sales, you have to offer more to your customer. In this episode, your host Donald Kelly has a conversation with Craig Colby, the co-founder and president of OneStream Software. Colby brings his experience and dedication to the table to show us how clearly setting expectations can lead to strong, long-term relationships with customers.

 

Why Should We Set Expectations?

  • Your prospect might be jaded. Have you ever wondered why your customers seem defensive as soon as you start your pitch? They’ve probably had other businesses overpromise and underdeliver, and they don’t want it to happen again.
  • Your customer is looking for a trusted expert. You’ve put in the work to learn what your product can do, and what it can’t. Your customer hasn’t. It’s the salesperson’s responsibility to help their customer understand the capabilities AND the limitations of their product so the customer can act in their own best interest.
  • Your reputation is forever. If you promise outcomes your product can’t deliver, your customers will remember that, and they’ll spread the word. Build long-term relationships with prospects by acting with integrity and empathy for their situation. That’s what will end up setting you apart.

 

How Do You Start Saying “No”?

  • If you can tell your product isn’t right for a customer, you can say “no” while still educating them. Give an explanation for why it’s not a good fit, or the conditions under which your product might become a better fit in the future
  • Let go of people-pleasing. Part of the learning curve in sales is understanding that you won’t be able to help everyone – you should try to support your customers, but only in a way that makes sense for you and your product
  • When your customers ask you a question about your product’s capabilities, it’s okay to say “I don’t know,” and to bring someone more knowledgeable into the conversation. Your honesty will build your credibility and trust with your customer

 

“If you’re a sales professional, and you’re newer, or you’re a little more mature, or you’re super mature in the job, you can always learn… Always be learning.” – Craig Colby

 

Resources

Craig Colby on LinkedIn

Craig Colby on Twitter

OneStream Software

info@onestreamsoftware.com

sales@onestreamsoftware.com

 

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

 

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Category:Time Management -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Don’t ever let anyone tell you there’s nothing new under the sun. Thought leaders don’t approach the world or their industry that way, so why should you? In this episode, Donald Kelly connects with Andy Buyting – coach, professional speaker, and best-selling author of How to Win Clients and Influence People. In this episode, Buyting introduces his proven-successful take on how to reinvent the relationship between sales and marketing which he outlines further in his 2021 book, Double Sales/Zero Salespeople. See the special offer in our Resources for a free half-hour call with one of the authors of the book!

 Why the “assembly line”?

  • Division of labor: splitting any complex process into specific tasks, and allowing people to specialize on one part of the task
  • Application in sales and marketing: Where a typical salesperson may be responsible for generating leads and prospecting all the way through making the final sale, Buyting recommends separating the tasks among dedicated people
  • Optimize: Once you know what each stage of the process is for your business, you can optimize and automate parts of the assembly line

 “Smarketing”: Intersection of Sales and Marketing

  • Frequently, sales and marketing operate too separately, and each department thinks it has all the answers when it comes to meeting goals
  • Marketing can help businesses find the right customers, but it can fall apart if salespeople are just selling and not providing value
  • Having sales with no marketing can be expensive, payroll-wise!
  • Sales and marketing both share the same goal: growing the business. Combining the two creates a more efficient process

“Just like Henry Ford developed the assembly line for the automobile, what is your business development assembly line? What are all of those stations along that journey for your prospect, from the very first time your company spends a time trying to land a sale, until they actually sign a contract? What are those stations, and then ask yourself, ‘how do I optimize each station?’” – Andy Buyting

 Resources

SPECIAL OFFER: Book a call or download a chapter of the book!

Double Sales/Zero Salespeople by Andy Buyting on Amazon

The Machine by Justin Roff-Marsh on Amazon

Tulip Media Group

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Time Management -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

We are all defined by how we handle the challenges we face. The only constant in life is change, and it doesn’t matter what industry you’re in – you have to learn how to adapt. Our guest today offers his solution to how sellers can approach their job during the current market so that you can successfully, and organically reach your goals. In this episode, Donald Kelly sits down with Joe McNeill, the CRO at Influ2, to talk about the current landscape, the shortcomings of how sales are currently being done, and how to shift your focus so that you can connect with the right buyers for your product.

 Challenges in Sales Today

  • E-mail outreach is up +50% since 2020, but replies have decreased by 30%. Limited outreach methods are leading to limited results
  • 72% of SDR teams are behind their pipeline goals. Some sales leaders think making more calls and sending more e-mails is the answer
  • SDRs and AEs are not always getting support, so they are not as efficient in their jobs as they could be

 How to Change Up Your Playbook for Success

  • People buy, not companies. If there are multiple people involved in the buying decision, create messaging that applies to each of them
  • Efficiency is growth. You’ll only have enough bandwidth to create focused messaging if you’re specific about who you reach out to
  • Pragmatic messaging. Using “silver-bullet”-style messaging probably won’t relate to buyers who are being faced with difficult decisions. Focus on how you can provide support
  • Leaders: Ask for help. If you’re not sure what to do or how to help your team, ask people around you what they’re doing and gather information. Talk to peers, consultants and mentors to spark your creativity.

 “People used to think, ‘what should we focus on, growth or efficiency?’ Now it’s, ‘efficiency IS growth.’ You’ve got no choice.” – Joe McNeill

 Resources

Joe McNeill on LinkedIn

Influ2: Person-Based Advertising Solution for B2B Marketers

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Time Management -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Do you know that feeling you get when you spend some time planning out the week ahead? It’s that sense of peace that lets us know we’re going to achieve our goals and nothing is going to get missed. Planning seriously increases our productivity, so why aren’t we all taking the time to do this at the beginning of each week? Whether you just can’t seem to find the time or you don’t know how to get started, Donald is here to help. Take out your Google Calendar or your favorite scheduler and let’s get to it!

 How to Make the Most of Your Weekly Planning Session

  1. Define your purpose for the week. Take a second to decide what you’re trying to accomplish this week. Look at your key performance indicators (KPIs), and make a plan for how you’re going to reach those things. 
  2. Plan activities accordingly. Decide what things are going to go on your calendar based on your KPIs. Highlight the “money generating activities” you do each day, and fill your day with those activities first.
  3. Put in your recurring meetings and activities. What activities are written in stone each week? Block those things out so you know what time you have available for the random appointments and meetings that will come up.
  4. Fill in your client meetings. Schedule meetings with potential clients or prospects. You might not want to set them in stone right off the bat in case of schedule changes, but pencil them in so they’re present in your overall plan.
  5. Fill in other activities. If you have a random assortment of little tasks you need to do, work-related or not, try to plan them so that they don’t mess up the flow of your week too much. Take some time to fit them in during the least obtrusive times possible.

“I would like most of us to be in that ‘Yes, I plan religiously’ category. I know when you do, your pipeline’s gonna be great, your pipeline’s going to progress, you’re going to convert more of those opportunities, and you’re going to see more success.” - Donald Kelly

Resources

Donald’s Linkedin Poll

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I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Time Management -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Don’t. Be. Boring. Every time you talk to a new client, in the back of your mind, you know you’re not the first person to ever pitch to them. You might not even be the first person to pitch to them that day. You need to stand out, and more importantly, be remembered. In this episode, Donald Kelly sits down with Andie Jewett, the Senior VP of Business Development at AMP Agency. They talk about the core elements of an amazing pitch, and how to make sure you’re not making the same mistakes as everybody else.

Jewett’s Background

  • Started in account management, with clients like Blue Cross Blue Shield and NinetyNine Restaurants
  • Now works with AMP Agency, overseeing business development and reaching out to potential clients

Most Common Pitching Mistakes - and How to Fix Them

  • Don’t jump into your pitch immediately, placing the focus on you and your product. Do your homework so that you know your client, ask them questions, and place the focus on them.
  • Don’t recite all your great ideas or figures one after the other in a list. Your client won’t remember them all! Instead, take them on a journey with a narrative thread. 

3 Core Elements of a GREAT Pitch

  1. Make the client the main character. It’s not about you, or your product. Your client is the hero of the story. Build a profile around who that customer is based on your research. Then, use this to address their needs and aspirations when you make your pitch.
  2. Take them on a journey. A story has a beginning, middle, and end. Have one main idea, or “hook” that will be the big takeaway from your pitch meeting. Build to your hook, share what it is, and make sure it threads all the way through. 
  3. Use a little showmanship. If you recite too many facts and figures, you will put your clients to sleep. Bring your personality, fun, AND facts. Even virtual pitches can have creative elements that help clients remember them.

“Look at how storytelling is done, not just in other industries, but even in literature. If you were to look at the perfect story arc of the best books and novels out there, you can absolutely compare your pitch to that.” - Andie Jewett

 Resources

Andie Jewett on Linkedin

AMP Agency 

Andie Jewett on Instagram

Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1651.mp3
Category:Women in Sales -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The days of the “spray and pray” method of selling are over. Nobody wants to be sold to, and bland, generic pitches are a dime a dozen. So how can you set yourself apart and improve your closing rates? Today, your host Donald Kelly asks Kay Miller, author of “Uncopyable Sales Secrets,” exactly that. Listen in to find out how you can identify, and sell to, YOUR Moose. Don’t forget to scroll down for an exclusive offer just for TSE Podcast listeners!

Miller’s Background

  • Miller broke through the glass ceiling in a male-dominated field, becoming successful in a short time
  • Got hired by Walker Exhaust, the largest automotive muffler manufacturer in the country, and became the top salesperson in the U.S., earning her the nickname “Muffler Mama”

What is a Moose? How do I Identify Mine?

  • Your “moose” is your perfect customer. For a moose-hunter, the moose is their target. Any time spent hunting other animals is time they can’t spend moose hunting.
  • Study your “moose”. Learn your ideal customer’s aspirations and needs so you can best understand how to help them.
  • Search for success. Who are your best clients? Who is a pleasure to work with? Try to find yourself more customers like that – people who align with your vision and want your help.

How Do You Set Yourself Apart?

  • Find unique ways to reach out to customers – snail mail? A video recording? Homing pigeons? Just kidding on that last one, but you do have to be special to be noticed.
  • Personalize your outreach methods so the customer knows you are reaching out to them specifically while staying true to your brand.
  • Once you’ve got their attention, don’t talk too much. Listen to the customer, ask questions, and figure out how you can help them.

“Take off your selling hat and imagine what your customer is going through. How would you feel if you got that pitch?” - Kay Miller

 Resources

Check out “5 Proven Secrets to Get in the Door” by Kay Miller - a free resource just for TSE listeners!

“Uncopyable Sales Secrets” by Kay Miller on Amazon

“Would You Marry You?” by 

Kay Miller on Linkedin (no pitches, please!)

UncopyableSales.com

 Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.


3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation. 

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Direct download: TSE_1650.mp3
Category:Women in Sales -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

The days of the “spray and pray” method of selling are over. Nobody wants to be sold to, and bland, generic pitches are a dime a dozen. So how can you set yourself apart and improve your closing rates? Today, your host Donald Kelly asks Kay Miller, author of “Uncopyable Sales Secrets,” exactly that. Listen in to find out how you can identify, and sell to, YOUR Moose. Don’t forget to scroll down for an exclusive offer just for TSE Podcast listeners!

Miller’s Background

  • Miller broke through the glass ceiling in a male-dominated field, becoming successful in a short time
  • Got hired by Walker Exhaust, the largest automotive muffler manufacturer in the country, and became the top salesperson in the U.S., earning her the nickname “Muffler Mama”

What is a Moose? How do I Identify Mine?

  • Your “moose” is your perfect customer. For a moose-hunter, the moose is their target. Any time spent hunting other animals is time they can’t spend moose hunting.
  • Study your “moose”. Learn your ideal customer’s aspirations and needs so you can best understand how to help them.
  • Search for success. Who are your best clients? Who is a pleasure to work with? Try to find yourself more customers like that – people who align with your vision and want your help.

How Do You Set Yourself Apart?

  • Find unique ways to reach out to customers – snail mail? A video recording? Homing pigeons? Just kidding on that last one, but you do have to be special to be noticed.
  • Personalize your outreach methods so the customer knows you are reaching out to them specifically while staying true to your brand.
  • Once you’ve got their attention, don’t talk too much. Listen to the customer, ask questions, and figure out how you can help them.

“Take off your selling hat and imagine what your customer is going through. How would you feel if you got that pitch?” - Kay Miller

 Resources

Check out “5 Proven Secrets to Get in the Door” by Kay Miller - a free resource just for TSE listeners!

“Uncopyable Sales Secrets” by Kay Miller on Amazon

“Would You Marry You?” by 

Kay Miller on Linkedin (no pitches, please!)

UncopyableSales.com

 Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.


3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation. 

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Direct download: TSE_1650.mp3
Category:Women in Sales -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode of The Sales Evangelist Podcast, Donald Kelly talks with Helen Fanucci about her timely book, Love Your Team: A Survival Guide for Sales Managers in a Hybrid World. The impacts of the pandemic continue to affect how we do business in 2023. The value of remote work can be seen and felt by workers across a variety of industries, including sales. So how do you connect with your team, ensuring their success and building their skills along the way? Fanucci’s experience as a Customer Success Sales Leader at Microsoft has given her a unique perspective, and she brings her expertise to this conversation.

 

Three Steps for Leaders to Help Their Team Build Pipeline

  1. The 3x Rule. Have 3 times the number of customers in the pipeline than what is needed to meet the quota.
  2. Fill in the gaps. Ask your team who they’re talking to on a given account, and see how your network, connections, or position can help them get in touch with decision-makers.
  3. Use tools like Linkedin Sales Navigator. Use the tools at your disposal and share the information you get with your team.

 

Three Ways to Build Your Team Members as Professionals

  1. Encourage critical thinking. Whether they’re successful or struggling, talk through your assessments with your team members. Help them learn to ask the right questions so that they can begin to assess themselves and search for solutions.
  2. Work side by side. As your team members start to have bigger accounts, help them understand the nuances of those customers. Think back to when you were first starting - did you have the kind of mentor you needed? If not, what would that have looked like?
  3. Emphasize personal connection. When your team members have their first contact with a potential client, the product is not immediately the most important thing. They need to be able to establish a rapport, person-to-person, and to understand the needs of the client. This will get your team much farther than skipping straight to the selling step. 

 

“Reduce sales friction. Support your team’s success by using your positional power and your network to reduce sales friction for your sellers.” - Helen Fanucci

 

Resources

Love Your Team: A Survival Guide for Sales Managers in a Hybrid World by Helen Fanucci on Amazon

Connect with Helen Fanucci on Linkedin

 

Sponsorship Offers



  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com



2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.



3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

 

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Category:Women in Sales -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

What makes this conversation between Donald Kelly and Natasha Ho so special is not just that they’ve both found success in sales, it’s that they genuinely want others to find that same success. Listen in as they discuss the limitations many sellers create for themselves and the ways you can open up new opportunities for yourself by asking important questions. 

 Natasha Ho’s Background

  • After getting her degree and working her dream job, she realized she didn’t want to progress in that line of work and found a new dream
  • She built her own business and became successful after she learned how to sell her product
  • Sales consulting on the side led her towards a path that was ultimately more fulfilling

 Seeing Opportunities, Not Limitations

  • High-Ticket buyers are like Santa Claus - you have to believe in them for them to exist. Your first high-ticket buyer could already be in your network, but you’ll never know unless you start to trust that they’re there.
  • Identify prospects by listening. When you start looking for customers or clients, identify the people who want your help and who are willing and able to invest in it.
  • Open up a conversation. Once you’ve identified someone to sell to, be willing to open up a dialogue. 

 Know Yourself, Know Your Buyer

  • What is your overall vision? What is your big goal? Before you start thinking about your buyer’s big goals or the problems they face, you need to know what your own goals are.
  • Why do you want this goal? Why is it important to you? Selling can be a tough job - knowing the answer to this and reminding yourself of it can help keep you from getting too fatigued or burnt out.
  • Why are you selling? This refers to your “bigger mission.” Sales will have ups and downs, and knowing the purpose behind what you do will help you through them. Believing in what you do will keep you from taking “no” too personally. 

“Go all-in on yourself. Bet on yourself. Invest in yourself. And when you are playing, play big.” - Natasha Ho

Resources

Natasha Ho on Instagram and Facebook - @theallinwoman

allinwoman.com

Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.


3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1648.mp3
Category:Women in Sales -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

We know you want to set more appointments. You’ve got this - this is a skill just like any other, and you can learn how to do it. It’ll take some practice and a little bit of creativity, so there’s no better time to start. In the previous episode, Donald Kelly took you through two parts of his four-part strategy. If you haven’t heard that episode yet, it really sets the stage for this one, so go back and check it out first. Then meet us back here so you can learn to start the conversations that will lead to appointments.

Set the Stage for a Dialogue - How Donald Uses the Strategy

  • After making a list and choosing someone to reach out to, reach out with a personal touch so you can to build a connection
  • Find the engagement path: Look for places you can connect - LinkedIn or Instagram are examples. Comment on a post asking a question, send them a video response, etc.
  • You can mention the topic you connected over when you reach out by email, as long as it’s relevant! This can increase your reply rates
  • It’s okay to play the numbers game, but if you have a focused list, you can use your time to make a more personal, fruitful connections

Hey, we know it can be easier said than done! If you’re interested in checking out the course offered by TSE, check out the link below.

Resources

TheSalesEvangelist.com/linkedin

Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.


3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Category:Sales Success Stories -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Whether you’re a brand new BDR or you’ve been in sales for a while, we know you care about bringing your best in your professional life. If you didn’t want to improve, you wouldn’t be here, right? Today is your lucky day - on this episode of The Sales Evangelist, Donald Kelly is going to share the strategy he has developed to help you get more appointments booked than ever before. This is a 4-part strategy, and in this episode, Donald will take you in-depth into two of the parts to help you get started.

Part 1 - Relevance

  • Analyze your ICP - Trigger #1 Donald looks for is a business leader who is new to the role - these people are likely to want to make changes
  • Trigger #2 is whether the target has been active on LinkedIn in the last 90 days
  • Cold e-mails fail if the salesperson doesn’t understand the person/business they’re emailing if they do not present a point of reference, and if the e-mail isn’t relevant
  • Find a focused list of people you can reach out to - people who will be interested in what you have to offer

Part 2 - Engagement

  • This is about an interaction between two people - it has to feel like a real connection
  • Some personal touches in e-mail or over LinkedIn can spark conversations - Donald gives an example of a time this worked for one of his BDRs
  • Cold, unsolicited e-mails could start damaging brands - if they are irrelevant and don’t spark engagement, the brand will be associated with that

This isn’t all it takes, however. Tune in to the next episode, where we go over the next two parts of the strategy - conversation, and appointment!

Resources

TheSalesEvangelist.com/linkedin

Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.


3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1646___V2.mp3
Category:Sales Success Stories -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

Sometimes the most interesting conversations are between experts on parallel paths sharing their journeys and noticing what their paths have in common. This conversation between Donald Kelly and Derrick Williams (Founder and Principal of 3Link Consulting) is an example of just that - they both have a keen sense of sales trends that has been honed over years of work in the industry. Williams is as knowledgeable as they come, but like Donald, he’s always learning more from the best and most educated voices in sales today. They discuss Williams’ new project, The Sales Consultant Podcast, and cover some of the salient pieces of information that have started to reveal themselves as important as Williams has been going through his first round of interviews. Whether you’re new in the field or have years of experience, check out the new podcast, and become a fly on the wall in a conversation between leaders in the field.

 

A Throughline: Focus on the Fundamentals

  • Communicating Value - Know how to open calls, all the way through to the end of the conversation.
  • Discovery - Even if you have a good conversation with someone, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to lead somewhere. To be most efficient, try to avoid going down the wrong path by taking your time in the discovery phase.
  • Practice - If you haven’t mastered the basics, you can’t move past the basics. Practice demos and rebuttals in real-time. As Williams says, “Get those reps up.”
  • Keep your mind clear.

 

No Time for False Positives

  • False positives, or going too far down a fruitless path, is not something businesses can afford to do in the current sales climate.
  • Whether a false positive occurs during hiring or targeting, it will (needlessly) cost the business resources.
  • They happen because we want to rush into making revenue and because a certain amount of risk-taking is rewarded, especially in the culture. But a scientific, data-driven approach is ultimately more efficient.
  • Having a sense of urgency can be okay, but having the proper practices in place in case things go wrong can soften the blow of losing a lead or doubling back.

 

Check out The Sales Consultant Podcast for conversations that go into these topics, and so much more. Donald was interviewed on the podcast, too - let us know how you liked his episode! If you want to reach out to Donald, drop him a message on LinkedIn, Tik Tok, and Instagram @donaldckelly. You can also join TSE’s space on Circle to talk to Donald and other sellers looking to improve their craft.

 

“I’m looking to expand and broaden my research and understand what’s working out there. Part of me getting better as a consultant and just as someone who wants to bring value to my clients, I need to be out there talking to industry experts. I need to be out there looking at what’s working, and bringing that back into my engagements … I want to share that with those that are on a similar journey.” - Derrick Williams 

Resources

Williams’ podcast: The Sales Consultant (launching 2/27/2023). Check it out on your favorite platforms. 

Derrick Williams on LinkedIn 

Derrick Williams on Instagram @derrickis3linksales

3linksales.com

Sponsorship Offers


  1. This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

Scratchpad is the fastest way for sales professionals to update Salesforce. Move at the speed of thought with Scratchpad. Try it for free or learn more at Scratchpad.com


2.            This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

Cold calling will not work if you’re using shallow, outdated information. You need to go deep. Try Deep Sales by LinkedIn, the next generation of LinkedIn Sales Navigator. You can get a 60-day free trial - simply go to Linkedin.com/TSE.


3.            This episode is brought to you in part by TSE Sales Foundation.

I think we can all agree that sales should be fun. However, many times, we find ourselves in a quagmire where we’re not progressing and deals are not going the way that they should. This is why we created TSE Sales Foundation. It’s a program designed to help sales professionals just like you master the fundamentals of sales so they can radically improve their sales pipeline and close more deals. To find out more about TSE Sales Foundation and our next start date, simply go to thesalesevangelist.com/foundation.

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Direct download: TSE_1645.mp3
Category:Sales Success Stories -- posted at: 6:00am EDT

In this episode, Donald meets with Jerrod Best-Mitchell, a passionate seller who has dialed in using video to make connections online. Best-Mitchell is a master of his craft - he has sent 6000 personal videos on LinkedIn so far and has gained so much knowledge in the process. Listen in so you can learn how to up your personalized video game so you can generate leads, and build connections and community.

Why use video?

  • Videos are the quickest way to build relationships and trust with strangers. Letting someone get to know you is what begins building community. And community is the direction sales are moving in 2023 and 2024.
  • Personalized videos may take a bit longer, but if you can isolate a few people to reach out to with short, engaging videos, it can increase your response rates and make you more efficient as a seller. But all videos are not created equal - Best-Mitchell has great tips to make your videos count.
  • In sales, and especially when you’re starting as a BDR or SDR, the way to be successful is to set yourself apart. Break the mold. It’s another way to stretch, become more flexible, and learn new skills.

3 Do’s and Don’ts for Personalized Video Content

  1. Don’t say your name. Don’t start with “hi.” Imagine you’re running into an acquaintance on the street. If you’re reaching out, they probably already know your name, so say their name. Make it personal.
  2. Do your research. It takes very little time to read through someone’s content, their personal bio, or their posts. Find something you personally connect to and start from there. Start a conversation, not a sale.
  3. Keep it short. As Best-Mitchell says, “This is not a Martin Scorcese film.” Keep it brief, meaningful, and interesting.

In the episode, Donald and Jerrod go over ways to overcome the obstacles associated with video, namely, the time it takes and how to not come in sounding like you’re about to give a terrible pitch. It’s clear, just from listening to this call, how personable and informative Jerrod is. We learned a lot, and we know you will, too.

If you want to reach out to Jerrod, find him on LinkedIn, or on his website, jerrodbestmitchell.com. And of course, the TSE community by sending a message to Donald. Drop him a message on LinkedIn, Tik Tok, and Instagram @donaldckelly. You can also join TSE’s space on Circle to talk to Donald and other sellers looking to improve their craft.

“There must be the top 20 people on your list that day that you can send a video out to. You can look at your list and tell - these are the best ones. And you may not get them on a phone call, but video might be the next option… Personalize the video, please, don’t send them a generic text. It will make a massive difference in your pipeline, and it will probably improve your response rate.” - Jerrod Best-Mitchell

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If you are ready to take control of your own destiny, get ready to hear the conversation with someone who has done exactly that. In this episode, Donald meets with Michael Schill, a former athlete who learned his skills in sales from NYT Bestselling Author and Real Estate mogul, Grant Cardone. Schill is now the founder of his own organization, Full Circle Agency. Listen in as he discusses how he got to where he is today, the lessons he has learned, and how he makes sure he will achieve his goals for the future.

Schill’s Background

  • He played football for Florida State University, where he learned the discipline it takes to improve - if you don’t show up and train, you don’t win.
  • Academics were also a huge focus for him - Schill graduated with a BA in Exercise Science from FSU.
  • He received a world class education working with Grant Cardone, training extensively in sales and learning how to solve the problem every product faces: building awareness.

A Few of Schill’s Core Tips for Success

  • Have a schedule. The only things that go on the schedule are “profit and/or potential profit-producing activities.”
  • Always be “on.” As he puts it, “all the greats have it.” No matter how many people you’re speaking to, or what you’re speaking to them about, you always represent you.
  • Learn to communicate effectively. If you can learn to get your message across concisely and correctly, this is what can take you to the next level.

Of course, in the episode, we go into way more depth on these topics and so much more. You’re sure to find yourself inspired to get out there, work hard, and make things happen for yourself.

Connect with Mike on Instagram, Twitter and TikTok @mikeschill_ or you can find him on LinkedIn. You can also follow his organization @thefullcircleofficial on Instagram, or reach out on their website, thefullcircle.io. If you want to reach out to Donald, drop him a message on LinkedIn, Tik Tok, and Instagram @donaldckelly. You can also join TSE’s space on Circle to talk to Donald and other sellers looking to improve their craft.

“Treat [sales] as if you are approaching a game, because when it’s all said and done, it is a game. You’ve gotta train every single day, and if you don’t train every single day, you can’t expect results.” - Michael Schill

Resources

The E-Myth by Michael Gerber

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  1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

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Confidence is key in life, but ESPECIALLY in sales. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist podcast, our host Donald Kelly meets with Wesleyne Whittaker-Greer to discuss different ways you can increase your confidence as a seller.

Strategies For Building Your Confidence

  1. Talk to yourself like you’re your own best friend. Your best friend wouldn't lie to you or sugarcoat things. If you talk to yourself like your best friend, you'll see what needs improvement.

  1. Practice selling. As the old saying goes, practice makes perfect. By practicing selling you can see what does and doesn't work. From there, you can better master your craft.

  1. Be open to constructive criticism. If you don't take feedback and criticism into consideration, you'll never improve. Listen to people's critiques and use them to improve your craft.

If you want to connect with Wesleyne or learn more about building confidence, you can connect with her on her LinkedIn. You can talk to Donald and drop him a message on LinkedIn, Tik Tok, and Instagram at donaldckelly. You can also join TSE’s space on Circle to talk to Donald and other sellers looking to improve their craft.

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Tech sales can be one of the most daunting sales industries to work in, but this doesn’t mean finding success is impossible. In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist podcast, our host Donald Kelly interviews Shirelle Francis to talk about her success in tech.

How Shirelle Overcame Challenges

  • The first challenge that Shirelle faced was finding a mentor.
  • She looked for a black female mentor who had previously found success in sales and studied AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE from this mentor.
  • The second challenge that Shirelle faced was finding proper training.
  • This ties into finding a mentor. As Shirelle looked for a mentor, she also sought out useful training for sales and not only mentored someone but studied the craft of sales.
  • The third challenge Shirelle faced was getting access to capital.
  • She overcame this by searching for a sponsor and actively seeking training and someone to teach her.

You can connect with Shirelle on her LinkedIn or check out her website at www.ileapgroup.com. You can talk to Donald and drop him a message on LinkedIn, Tik Tok, and Instagram at donaldckelly. You can also join TSE’s space on Circle to talk to Donald and other sellers looking to improve their craft.

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Being successful is EVERYONE’s goal in life. So how can sellers achieve this success? In today’s episode of The Sales Evangelist podcast, our host Donald Kelly goes over how sellers can reach the success they’re aiming for.

5 Keys For Achieving Success

  • You have to clearly define what success actually IS for you personally.
  • You have to help people solve their problems.
  • You have to know where you can improve.
  • You have to continually improve yourself and work towards perfecting your craft.
  • You have to do a self-evaluation.

You can talk to Donald and drop him a message on LinkedIn, Tik Tok, and Instagram at donaldckelly. You can also join TSE’s space on Circle to talk to Donald and other sellers looking to improve their craft.

This episode is brought to you in part by Scratchpad.

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